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Ever had an unfair bank charge?

mr.white Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 2:23am
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Interesting info..

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?newsid1141050760,24632

Related site which I've just started: Debt Management UK..

Chilipepper Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 4:48pm

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The bankactiongroup is a good website lots of interesting information. Not sure how much trouble I should go to claim a couple of hundred back in charges though, still alittle backs better than nothing.

nick Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 4:54pm
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Might be worth a try.

Chilipepper Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 4:58pm

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I was reading though that you often have to switch your account, this would be a pain because I'd have to reroute my wage, student loan, rent, bills, phone bill, standing orders.....

But i banks get away with murder so maybe I should stick it to them (no homo)

misled youth Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:05pm
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Chilipepper wrote:

I was reading though that you often have to switch your account, this would be a pain because I'd have to reroute my wage, student loan, rent, bills, phone bill, standing orders.....

But i banks get away with murder so maybe I should stick it to them (no homo)

i think banks often do all this for you now if you switch

Norvern Rob Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:11pm
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Chilipepper wrote:

I was reading though that you often have to switch your account, this would be a pain because I'd have to reroute my wage, student loan, rent, bills, phone bill, standing orders.....

But i banks get away with murder so maybe I should stick it to them (no homo)

I actually looked at changing my current account to nationwide, they switch everything for you including your wages, DD, standing orders etc, and give you £50 if you incur any charges because of a mistake by them.

Edit: saw MY's post after i posted this!

Good link Mr W, i've read most of that site and it's not just blag to try and get a few quid back, the legalities of it are that the banks don't have a legal leg to stand on and only 1 has gone to court - they did win but they guy taking the action was arguing the wrong points by the looks of it.

Quite a few people on there have had every penny refunded without it going to court, the banks certainly wouldn't give money back unless they knew there were legally in the wrong.

Chilipepper Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:14pm

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Thats the thing, they know court action would look bad. Alot of banks will offer at least 50% of the charges back before the court date.

Norvern Rob Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:17pm
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Chilipepper wrote:

Thats the thing, they know court action would look bad. Alot of banks will offer at least 50% of the charges back before the court date.

And by the looks of it everyone that turns that 50% down gets the full amount.

mr.white Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:20pm
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I wouldn't turn 50% down Puzzled

Norvern Rob Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:25pm
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mr.white wrote:

I wouldn't turn 50% down Puzzled

I've just been looking through my account and added the charges up for the last 5 years (since i switched to that account) - £989 Oops

Nearly all that is from a few years ago when i was living with an ex, i used to forget about stuff coming out, or just go to a cash machine and take money out without checking - the bank just let me take money i didnt have then charged me for it.

Chilipepper Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:31pm

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Download that form and get it sent off! They'll probably offer you some sort of "goodwill" gesture straight away

EDIT Here's the template:

[your address]

[bank address]

Request for repayment of charges

Dear Sir/Madam,

ACCOUNT NUMBER: xxxxxxx

My request
I am writing to ask you to refund to me the charges which you have levied from my account over the last xx years.
I now understand that the regime of fees which you have been applying to my account in relation to direct debit refusals, exceeding overdraft limits and so forth are unlawful at Common Law, Statute and recent Consumer regulations.

Your responsibilities
I would draw your attention to the terms of the contract which you agreed to at the time that I opened my account. It is an implied term of that contract that you would conduct yourselves lawfully and in a manner which complies with UK law.

I am frankly shocked that you have operated my account in this way as I had always reposed confidence in your integrity and expertise as my fiduciary.

What I require
I calculate that you have taken £XXXXX plus £XXX which you have charged me in overdraft interest for the sum which you have taken. Total £XXXXX
***Additionally you have entered a default notice against my credit record. This default occurred merely in respect of unlawful charges levied by you or was the result of impecuniosities caused directly by the taking by you of penalty charges which you had applied unlawfully to my account.

In addition to full payment of the sum mentioned above I require that you remove the default entry from the register. Please note that mere correction or amendment to the entry will not be acceptable. ***

My targets to resolve this matter
I hope that you will enter into a sincere dialogue with me about this matter and I am writing this letter to you on the assumption that you will prefer to do this than merely respond with standard letters and leaflets.

I will give you 14 days to reply to me accepting unconditionally my request in principle and letting me know a date by which I will receive payment.

If you do not respond or you do not respond positively within this time period, I shall send you a letter before action giving you a further 14 days in which to reflect. I believe that these targets are more than sufficient for a large company such as yours with dedicated staff and departments.

After that will be no further communication from me and I shall issue a claim at the expiry of the second deadline.

Yours faithfully,

[your name]

nick Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:35pm
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Considering it takes the Halifax upto 6 weeks to set-up a direct debit (usually wrongly), I can't see them replying to me in 14 days to that kind of request Smiling

mr.white Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:37pm
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NovernRob, How did you work out the total fees so quickly?

Norvern Rob Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:38pm
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nick wrote:

Considering it takes the Halifax upto 6 weeks to set-up a direct debit (usually wrongly), I can't see them replying to me in 14 days to that kind of request Smiling

Thats when you send them another letter stating they have another 14 days to respond before you start legal action. Worth a try, worst case they close your account, so what, just open another and get your money from them anyway.

nick Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:40pm
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Do you need to know in advance how much you're claiming back ?

I've no idea how much they have charged me, but it's a lot.

Norvern Rob Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:40pm
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mr.white wrote:

NovernRob, How did you work out the total fees so quickly?

My HSBC online banking goes right back to 2001 when i opened the account - the charges always came out around the 1st of the month so i went through every months statements from then till present, typed all the charges then added them up.

Doesn't take long when you get started, unfortunately there's no button to see just the charges!

Chilipepper Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 5:42pm

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On your statements it will state usually on the summary page what the charges are for that month. Think I have around £100 of charges from Abbey National.

Got raped once for going £1.20 over my overdraft. C'unts

Rirawin Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 6:27pm
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Norvern Rob wrote:

Nearly all that is from a few years ago when i was living with an ex, i used to forget about stuff coming out, or just go to a cash machine and take money out without checking - the bank just let me take money i didnt have then charged me for it.

What the hell? What bank lets you do that? I know for a fact with my Halifax Current Account and Nationwide Flexaccount, neither would let me withdraw any more over my 'available' balance. I thought that's what the available balance was there for? Not having a dig at you of course, more at the fact at the money making scheme your bank has going - getting people overdrawn all the time!

Only thing which would send it over it's limit would be a direct debit. But then Halifax the cheeky fucks 'block' it for you. So you think Thanks for that, then they charge you £20 + interest for blocking the charge so you don't get overdrawn. Nice one!

Norvern Rob Posted: Wed, 08/03/2006 - 6:44pm
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Rirawin wrote:
Norvern Rob wrote:

Nearly all that is from a few years ago when i was living with an ex, i used to forget about stuff coming out, or just go to a cash machine and take money out without checking - the bank just let me take money i didnt have then charged me for it.

What the hell? What bank lets you do that? I know for a fact with my Halifax Current Account and Nationwide Flexaccount, neither would let me withdraw any more over my 'available' balance. I thought that's what the available balance was there for? Not having a dig at you of course, more at the fact at the money making scheme your bank has going - getting people overdrawn all the time!

Only thing which would send it over it's limit would be a direct debit. But then Halifax the cheeky fucks 'block' it for you. So you think Thanks for that, then they charge you £20 + interest for blocking the charge so you don't get overdrawn. Nice one!

HSBC let me do it now, they have never ever stopped a cheque, a direct debit or me taking any money out just because there isn't any in. Maybe i should take more notice, but when you've got a mortgage, bills etc all coming out, which add up to about £1100 a month it's easy to forget something occasionally.

Norvern Rob Posted: Wed, 17/05/2006 - 11:53pm
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Bumping this thread back. I've been using the Bank action group site, and have sent 2 letters to HSBC. I got a reply today offering me £875 as a settlement.

£2 worth of recorded delivery letters is all it took. I didn't even need to lodge a claim in the small claims court.

mr.white Posted: Thu, 18/05/2006 - 12:12am
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I'll take 10% purplease Smiling

Am happy you got that! You accepting the settlement (of course you fucking are!!)

I got charged £70 in fines last month, two £20 fines for going over my limit twice in a week, then one £30 for them paying an amount i didnt have in my account at the time.