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The Premiership discussion thread

Brad Posted: Sat, 19/11/2011 - 8:31pm
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New thread. old one archived here.


carl lewis Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 7:06am

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Levy a joker, if Spuds copped Samaba and werent being tight they would of had 3rd place.


OnlyOneStop Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 9:32am
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Rioch was so good he lasted a season. You telling me Bergkamp signed for Rioch or the scum? Spin it how you like he was a shit manager...just like the shit manager you posted up. Yep your club has 'em as well.


R Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 9:38am
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billybrown wrote:

Spurs................LOL

Remember a certain forum member giving it large midway through the season...finished below the arse in the end....

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no one could predict we'd stop playing for 3 months! looked a quality team up to jan.


OnlyOneStop Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 9:43am
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Love the way everyone buys this Harry shit about him being the best thing for us. I've got alot to thank him for but the bloke is a fucking joke with his constant shite in the press, his lack of tactical nous and his love of the coin.

The club dropped the ball in the last 3 transfer windows but the buck has to stop with Redknapp. He took 2 months off being our manager during the run-in and he's paid the price.


R Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 9:52am
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still was unfortunate that chelsea won cl, virtually any other season and we've qualified.

think he did very well for us and relatively sad to see him go, but can see why they've done it.

only issue is trying to find someone as good/better than him, which, with the name's we're being linked with. I'm not confident of.

for all his lack of tactical nous, I do think he was learning (chelsea away, swansea home) and I think his man-management skills more than compensated.


doomedyouth Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 9:55am
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R wrote:

only issue is trying to find someone as good/better than him, which, with the name's we're being linked with. I'm not confident of.

Moyes is so much better than redknapp.


R Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 9:56am
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disagree, though tough to call.


bakes Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 10:34am
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Here are my thoughts, from a slightly different point of view: a business point of a view.

Firstly, I am going to congratulate Mr Levy on a really smart move. Lets not forget that Mr Levy is a very good businessman.

It is summed up in one line from My Levy's PR statement: 'Harry arrived at the Club at a time when his experience and approach was exactly what was needed.'

Read that line. Then read it again.

My Levy had a strategy and My Levy has implemented that strategy. When he employed Harry, he knew it was not a long term placement. It's called the Peter Principle.

"The principle holds that in a hierarchy, members are promoted so long as they work competently. Eventually they are promoted to a position at which they are no longer competent (their "level of incompetence"), and there they remain, being unable to earn further promotions. Peter's Corollary states that "in time, every post tends to be occupied by an employee who is incompetent to carry out its duties" and adds that "work is accomplished by those employees who have not yet reached their level of incompetence." "Managing upward" is the concept of a subordinate finding ways to subtly "manage" superiors in order to limit the damage that they end up doing."

"In an organizational structure, the Peter Principle's practical application allows assessment of the potential of an employee for a promotion based on performance in the current job; i.e., members of an hierarchical organization eventually are promoted to their highest level of competence, after which further promotion raises them to incompetence. That level is the employee's "level of incompetence" where the employee has no chance of further promotion, thus reaching their career's ceiling in an organization.

The employee's incompetence is not necessarily a result of the higher-ranking position being more difficult. It may be that the new position requires different work skills which the employee may not possess. For example, an engineer with great technical skill might get promoted to project manager, only to discover he lacks the interpersonal skills required to lead a team."

Harry had reached his limit. He seems to think he has more to offer our Club, but with one year left on his contract, I think Mr Levy knew he didn't have any more to give. His recent negative attitude and run of results shown that he was now being destructive, rather than productive.


carl lewis Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 10:38am

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Klinnsman only man really to take club forward for me.


R Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 10:49am
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read earlier he's who we want, don't see why though. achieved nothing and was seemingly just a figurehead for germany.


Double D Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 11:32am

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love how the yids' delusions of grandeur have led them to believe that the manager who gave them their three best seasons since i was a kid now isn't good enough

it's as bad as the arsenal fans who think that another manager could magically turn us into barcelona-beaters despite our limited resources


Double D Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 11:32am

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OnlyOneStop wrote:

What's he gonna do about it? Did you not see Modric playing for Spurs last season after he wanted away? And why should he leave now, eh? He's hardly the finished article anyway.

just like arsenal kept fabregas and united kept ronaldo...


Davinho Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 11:36am
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carl lewis wrote:

Klinnsman only man really to take club forward for me.

What the fuck are you talking about? Laughing out loud


OnlyOneStop Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 11:39am
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who said he wasn't good enough? he played himself over the england job and gave up managing the team for our run-in. it cost us. what do you do to someone who does that? give him a bigger contract? would you fuck...

and what's this about the goons limited resources? you're in dreamland mate...you have plenty but the board would rather pocket the money rather than spend it. lets see if wenger sticks to his delusional grand plan to train a bunch of talented kids to glory this season


trailofdavid Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 11:51am
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R wrote:

still was unfortunate that chelsea won cl, virtually any other season and we've qualified.

That's just turning a blind eye to the fact that you were ten points clear in third in the middle of february. Winning 4 out of last 13 is the reason you didnt qualify for the CL


R Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 11:53am
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already said that run was shocking! hardly a blind eye.


OnlyOneStop Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 11:59am
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but according to everyone else spurs are mental for getting shot of harry


trailofdavid Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 1:12pm
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Not even left em in anywhere near as good a state as he's making out either

Friedel - 1 or 2 seasons left
King - retired
Gallas - aging, 1 or 2 seasons left?
Bassong, Kaboul - not good enough. Dawson only decent CB with a future

Fullbacks - no real cover for BAE or Walker, Corluka allowed to leave in Jan.

Centre-mid - OK here, although Parker is 31.

Wingers / AMs - no cover for Lennon, Modric wants to leave, Bale and VDV will want away if they fail again next season.

Forwards - can they afford to sign Adebayor permanently? Chose Saha (old, injury-prone) in Jan, when Cisse and Jelavic were going for < £10m

Big rebuilding job needed


MoB Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 1:19pm
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kaboul's decent, proper improved.


R Posted: Thu, 14/06/2012 - 1:36pm
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Kaboul is our best defender, quality player