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Double D
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3134 posts since 8/3/07

19 Dec 2014 13:56
This EU ruling also in no way contradicts the EqA, it's really not much of a story. Anything from having a limp to seasonal affected disorder to having bad eyesight could be considered a case for workplace adjustments, it's no shock that being massively fucking fat is another.
Kadafi39
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914 posts since 30/10/09

19 Dec 2014 14:00
And is that a reasonable burden on an employer for someone who has done that to themselves? I don't think so. What happens if an employer cant accommodate the obese employee? Either the employer or government ends up paying.

Also read that link mate, apparently our government has been paying out "obesity related disability" benefits for quite some time already.

http://www.noo.org.uk/uploads/doc/vid_18474_obesity_dis.pdf
Double D
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3134 posts since 8/3/07

posted 19 Dec 2014 14:27, edited 19 Dec 2014 14:27
Kadafi39 wrote: And is that a reasonable burden on an employer for someone who has done that to themselves? I don't think so.
Agree but where do we draw the line with personal responsibility? T2DM, COPD, not squatting enough in earlier life, consequences of stupid drunken injuries?

Kadafi39 wrote: What happens if an employer cant accommodate the obese employee?
The employer has to, there is no can't/won't where the EqA is concerned. Employers make concessions all the time, it's just noone exactly bleats it out that Cheryl from accounting is getting an extra tea break to stop her having a nervous breakdown.

Kadafi39 wrote: Also read that link mate, apparently our government has been paying out "obesity related disability" benefits for quite some time already.
"Obesity-related disability" != "obesity as a disability", like I said simply having a BMI over 30 with no extra problems isn't going to qualify you for disability benefit.

I agree with you on the principle that fat fucks shouldn't be getting any concessions, but the EqA is a complex beast and undermining it in any way could set a dangerous precedent. (edit: to clarify it works so well for people with disabilities because employers aren't really allowed to question what is a 'genuine' disability or 'disabled enough', if you allow them to start drawing lines then more vulnerable members of society could start losing out)
Kadafi39
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914 posts since 30/10/09

19 Dec 2014 15:19
Yeah totally agree, its a sensitive subject and a difficult area to make blanket laws but imo even though its cuntish, social prejudices make it more difficult to sympathise with someone who has eaten themselves into obesity compared to someone who has drunk themselves to liver failure.

Of course, which is partly why the system has been milked for so long, like people claiming they have vertigo.

What do you do for a living out of interest mate?
Double D
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3134 posts since 8/3/07

19 Dec 2014 15:39
NHS clerical
Kadafi39
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914 posts since 30/10/09

19 Dec 2014 15:52
Knew it would be something medical related!
pops
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3309 posts since 2/9/09

19 Dec 2014 15:54
Kadafi39 wrote: Knew it would be something medical related!

Thought it's be pharmaceutical related myself Laughing out loud
TIMDOT
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104 posts since 6/8/14

posted 20 Dec 2014 01:43, edited 20 Dec 2014 01:43
ismvil wrote: Cunts, hope someone bombs them gone
Can't bomb an idea out of peoples heads.
Any large modern military occupation is evidence of this.
ismvil
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430 posts since 16/9/11

20 Dec 2014 09:16
True, it was more an expression because I couldn't / can't believe they did it.

TIMDOT wrote:
ismvil wrote: Cunts, hope someone bombs them gone
Can't bomb an idea out of peoples heads.
Any large modern military occupation is evidence of this.
MasterBlaster
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787 posts since 7/4/12

20 Dec 2014 11:20
Maybe the ISI/Army will stop sheltering terrorists and letting them cross the border at will. Reap what you sow. Most of the people in the tribal areas support the Taliban anyway, they ain't disappearing.
Mike Hunt
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1384 posts since 6/6/03

20 Dec 2014 12:24
Where did padawans riding a bike in his bosses house post go????????

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2881371/Mad-Friday-s-flow-Christmas-party-revellers-hit-towns-country-emergency-services-brace-busiest-drinking-nights-year.html
Vazza
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4041 posts since 30/9/06

posted 20 Dec 2014 12:52, edited 20 Dec 2014 12:52
In the grumpy young men thread
gonzoking
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367 posts since 13/3/11

20 Dec 2014 16:41
MasterBlaster wrote:
gonzoking wrote: Don't mind shit banter as above, but a good friend of mine is a sniper in the RAF, he's done 7 active tours,Iraq and Afghanistan, over 35 confirmed kills, I'm no armchair warrior and I don't think its glamorous, when I go out with this guy my missus always says why does he have to get so fucked up, the guy gets zombie drunk, can't talk, I tell her I can only guess if you've killed over 30 guys through a sniper scope for your job it has to be psychologically deeply damaging.
I tell this story just to say I don't play video games,I do know what the full time proffesional guys think about situations like this, I have consoled a guy who has done this shit professionally for their job, not a CSB in my eyes

Since when did fucking RAF snipers kill more than Marines and CI teams? Laughing out loud

You couldn't be more wrong, you clearly no nothing about the forces, this is a good friend of mine who last year won the sniper of the year (tri forces) competition, ostensibly they are used to guard airstrips but when you are one of the best you get asked to do other work while on active duty in Iraq then Afghan, makes no difference that he's RAF. I'm not totally surprised people think I'm lying but why would I, its a stupid thing to make up, if you were going to make up this shit you'd hint your friend was special forces.
Jimmy326
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4055 posts since 22/9/07

20 Dec 2014 16:51
Sniper Of The Year Laughing out loud
smith
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9409 posts since 5/5/04

20 Dec 2014 16:57
Jimmy326 wrote: Sniper Of The Year Laughing out loud

Laughing out loud