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Kingmob07 Posted: Sat, 09/05/2009 - 8:43pm
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Anyone recommend some good on or offline courses? Got a retraining budget of up to 2k I need to rinse, and the subject interests me.

Cheers.


breckroadlover Posted: Sat, 09/05/2009 - 8:46pm
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very saturated, web design. have you thought it through? but if it's what you really want to do, good luck Cool


Kingmob07 Posted: Sat, 09/05/2009 - 8:59pm
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Thanks. You too.


SOS Posted: Sun, 10/05/2009 - 12:06am

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Yes there are alot of people calling themselves web developers, but the funny thing is I am always suprised at how many shit ones seem to make a killing from it because they can sell. If your actually good at it with a creative drive, stay ontop of trends and can sell you can still do very very well.

Not sure on your approach as you have a budget to blow, but otherwise I would find the time to get to grips with some great books and online resources first. There are many sides to it aswell, you have or want the graphical side, and making good html code with css. Then you build on this with php and mysql to start making clever interactive sites. Then you have Javascript and libs like jquery for effects and gloss, and then ontop of this you have frameworks for languages to pick up. There is also hell of alot more!

Not sure what courses do for 2K,but I am always suspicous as i was self taught at first and then worked in web dev teams for the last few years to learn the trade. Let me know of any you see and i can help advise if they look like they are worth it or not.


SOS Posted: Sun, 10/05/2009 - 12:15am

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could try and start here and see how you get on, and if you think you will enjoy it.
Its only going to teach you some basics, like what ppl do on courses ( paid or educational), but you need to know it. They start to learn some photoshop and learn some design practices from books and other good sites and begin putting stuff together. The experience is key, no course can teach that in a few weeks.

http://www.w3schools.com/xhtml/default.as


SOS Posted: Wed, 13/05/2009 - 3:25pm

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remind me never to take time from my busy day reply to one of your posts again.
Ignorant cunt.


mr.white Posted: Wed, 13/05/2009 - 3:28pm
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Laughing out loud


mattavich Posted: Wed, 20/05/2009 - 10:31am

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I work for a web design company. I don't design the websites though. I work through SEO, promotion and have other skills.

I think to be a web designer you need a certain amount of natural design talent and a qualification just to nurture it.

But my side of the business, creating sites, developing them, promoting them was all learnt by myself at home. In fact, colleges, universities don't teach what is required for the job. You can't learn this stuff from those places.

I worked from home, making money online through various websites and took those techniques to the company i now work for. I don't think i could ahve done it any other way.

Regards

Matt - ph-creative.com


mr.white Posted: Wed, 20/05/2009 - 7:40pm
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work in SEO but no top 10 listing for 'web design liverpool'.. tut tut... Sad

theres a website somewhere that lets you purchase leads, i did it for a bit. you view all the leads then decide if you want to offer them a quote, you pay between 5 and 25 quid you get there contact details. i got a job this way that made me some easy money and got me referrals. i also got her on a 7 quid a month hosting deal with my hosting reseller account (100 clients x 7 quid = 700 quid a month on autopilot)

you have the 2 grand to spend and it needs to be spent so perhaps see if your local university has the basic courses.. if you can afford it throw in a basic internet marketing course as well. creating the websites is so easy these days.

another side benefit of being able to create websites and market them successfully is the opportunity to offer mates deals on stuff they can get ahold of and you get a % comish

if you need any extra marketing info pm me i have lots of invites to a private community for that shizzle


PHiL Posted: Wed, 20/05/2009 - 7:50pm
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mr.white wrote:

work in SEO but no top 10 listing for 'web design liverpool'.. tut tut... Sad

He's working on it, hence his link above Smiling


SOS Posted: Wed, 20/05/2009 - 8:04pm

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white matts only posted here for a usefull seo link to his company mate Laughing out loud

one thing I want to add, Learning dreamweaver is not learning website, its learning dreamweaver.

Your a web developer when you can code a site with notepad alone, dreamweaver can adds so much shit to a page its messy, and your not learning how it works by clicking buttons that build code for you. I would advise never to do a dreamwaver course unless you want to make your own personal sites, if you want to do it for a living stay away.

I use eclipse with the PDT for php,
http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/downloads/

Its free and has great support for subversion if later on you get into version management. This can be learnt later on ,but 100% worth learning if you go for a job in team of devs, if they dont use subversion stay away.

To learn as i say get on the w3c schools,
get on twitter and search google for web developers on twitter and add them
And get on and try and read sites like these http://net.tutsplus.com/ http://www.noupe.com/

put your 2K in your pocket and use it fo pay your bills while you learn the trade and look for work.

Also start simple, I often turn work down that is too low paying nowadays as sometimes as I dont have the time between real work ( and they want the world for free)
But when your starting out its a good way to get paid while your learning, i bet you know 3/4 ppl who would have a website for 300 quid?


mr.white Posted: Wed, 20/05/2009 - 8:08pm
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i thought it was one of those things that has to be spent on training...