General Discussion: A Reason For Not Living In Scotland


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EVERS
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8580 posts since 2/7/06

10 Sep 2014 10:33
all scots living in england should be forced to wear a tam o shanter wi' faux ginger hair and recite the complete works of altered images on demand.
FLG
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5860 posts since 21/5/04

10 Sep 2014 10:39
swede wrote:
skuxxil wrote: Worried about what a YES vote could do to HANON's shipping times….

import tax aswell as they wont be in the eu Cry
Never going to happen. There are countries in Europe but not the eu that don't impose import/export taxes. To have import/export from Scotland to UK they would need to build a wall and inspection points!
Best
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9776 posts since 21/10/05

10 Sep 2014 10:42
Salmond is such an enormous cunt I'm almost glad to have Cameron
rural
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17563 posts since 26/9/06

10 Sep 2014 10:44
Slippery Salmond. Much better politician than Cameron though (can't stand either btw)
Best
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9776 posts since 21/10/05

10 Sep 2014 10:53
Yeah but his politics seem to be jibes and wipes rather than actual policy, sadly it seems to be working

If i was a scot i would vote yes, purely due to the way westminster have dealt with (or not) this referendum

Andy / FLG & other scottish fusers how are you going to be voting
DuffMan
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14285 posts since 21/2/07

10 Sep 2014 11:10
The original topic of this thread Laughing out loud
EVERS
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8580 posts since 2/7/06

10 Sep 2014 11:13
Best wrote: Salmond is such an enormous cunt I'm almost glad to have Cameron
Jawdropping!

that's some statement
FLG
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5860 posts since 21/5/04

posted 10 Sep 2014 11:13, edited 10 Sep 2014 11:13
Hate both Cameron and Salmond, it's tough to not get got up in that though. That's far from what we are voting for. There is the possibility of a narrow win, say 52% that's going to be 48% people immediately not voting SNP for the first independent Scottish government. If it's the other way the uk government have to stick to their promise of more powers or we are going to be back to square one with more support for independence. If we do get more powers Wales and Northern Ireland will look for more. I think the answer (in the case of a no vote) lies in a devolved English parliament.
There is of course the plus side of being independent who we vote will decide all policy as opposed to what has been the case since I was born that who we vote for has no/little bearing.

Still undecided, my family is 4:1 no, my work is 8:1 yes (mostly 20 something lads), mates are 50/50 (definitely a pattern of those with kids being no and those who work offshore being yes)
Double D
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3552 posts since 8/3/07

10 Sep 2014 11:20
If Scotland leaves us stuck with a gigantic Tory majority down here I'm getting the fuck out to Europe, unless we leave Europe as well in which case I'm getting the fuck over the Atlantic and not coming back.
EVERS
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8580 posts since 2/7/06

10 Sep 2014 11:34
labour are finished
Trystero
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1619 posts since 1/8/07

10 Sep 2014 11:41
'Scotland the Brave' to bottle it in the privacy of the polling booth and vote no imo

hope I'm wrong, but doubt it
burny
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5789 posts since 25/5/06

10 Sep 2014 11:42
Best wrote: If i was a scot i would vote yes, purely due to the way westminster have dealt with (or not) this referendum

Probably shouldn't say this… but Im currently working on the NO campaign. I work at M&C and on Monday we gave a presentation to AD. It was 2 decks, the first was of the current work we've done thats run, and was 7 pages. The other was 83 pages and was work that they've refused to put out. Its crazy.

Also, if they vote YES the Royal Bank of Scotland will have to move the business to London as it currently needs the EU incase of a bailout, which would be highly likely.
MuayThaiPimp
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7925 posts since 10/8/11

10 Sep 2014 11:43
Will the price of irn bru go up…of the vote is yes..?
burny
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5789 posts since 25/5/06

10 Sep 2014 11:44
AD is alos worried because if they vote yes, Labour lose 70 seats.

They'll almost certainly be a vote of no confidence in Cameron as well, and then we'll have an early election. All of that is a very real and likely situation.
1234589
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888 posts since 1/6/10

10 Sep 2014 11:53
burny wrote: Probably shouldn't say this… but Im currently working on the NO campaign. I work at M&C and on Monday we gave a presentation to AD. It was 2 decks, the first was of the current work we've done thats run, and was 7 pages. The other was 83 pages and was work that they've refused to put out. Its crazy.

Was M&C behind that awful and patronising NO campaign video of an undecided woman that was released last month?

AD is alos worried because if they vote yes, Labour lose 70 seats.

Erm not quite…40 seats, and there are only 59 MPs in Scotland anyway. It's not even that significant really, as it means the swing in the next election would have to increase by 12 from 68 (as it currently stands inc. Scotland) to 80 (excluding) for Labour to get in to power with a majority. Not really much in it.
Trystero
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1619 posts since 1/8/07

10 Sep 2014 11:54
burny wrote: Probably shouldn't say this… but Im currently working on the NO campaign. I work at M&C and on Monday we gave a presentation to AD. It was 2 decks, the first was of the current work we've done thats run, and was 7 pages. The other was 83 pages and was work that they've refused to put out. Its crazy.

Did you have a hand in this? Laughing out loud

Genuinely thought it was a parody/spoof ad when I saw it.
burny
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5789 posts since 25/5/06

10 Sep 2014 12:16
No fucking way! Nothing to do with that. Print and outdoor only.
Superprecise
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2081 posts since 16/7/11

posted 10 Sep 2014 12:20, edited 10 Sep 2014 12:20
Jesus Christ, that is unbearable!!!

"The woman who made up her mind"… shocking. Women, know your limits!
selkiefolk
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421 posts since 27/3/13

10 Sep 2014 12:29
FLG, you have to give Salmond some props though for free prescriptions and free uni education - plus, unlike Camcunt he didn't drag a country into a war (yet) the people didn't want. Plus, you gotta admire how skilfully he outmanoeuvred the other main parties, exposing their disdain for Scotland, Ireland and Wales. Yeah, he might be a twat, but Cameron's smug gang career politician chums are some next level twats.

Voting inclination does seem to be split between older generation and younger gen doesn't it? Maybe older remembers the union as feeling united by the post-WW2 welfare state. But young team were born in an age of devolution, with its free scripts and university. They see the union's welfare state falling apart, with state assets being sold to anyone who'll buy them. Scotland doing its own thing looks much better to them. Maybe it might inspire young people in England, too - who have no political choice anymore: just rich establishment cunts, racist establishment cunts (UKIP), and racist poor cunts (BNP, NF). I think a more radical but modern party down here would shake things up. They need to be shaken up.

I'm in London and probably won't return to Scotland so can't vote. I have to say, I think UK would miss the economic contribution. The FT shows that economically, Scotland of course would be better off on its own. Its economy rebounded from recession quicker than the UK's, and its per capita GDP - even without oil - is bigger than Italy's; with oil, it's bigger than France and the UK's. A top 20 country per head GDP - the UK isn't even in the top 20! Of course, the cost of transitioning and currency fluctuations will certainly dent that but not terminally.

I think people's inclinations are probably ruled more by emotional arguments at the end of the day: the young love hope and optimism, whilst the old are swayed by fear-mongering. It's hope vs fear, Skywalker vs the Emperor (no nankid).

Either way it's easily the most exciting thing that has happened to Scotland, maybe politics, in my lifetime. It's being talked about globally. It's fomenting anti-establishment thinking. It has exposed how weak the 'union' really has become.


Interesting times - wish I was up there to vote.


MuayThaiPimp
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7925 posts since 10/8/11

10 Sep 2014 12:32
MuayThaiPimp wrote: Will the price of irn bru go up…of the vote is yes..?