General Discussion: Alcohol


Doogan
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712 posts since 13/4/14

5 Aug 2018 16:42
Anyone here knocked the booze on the head? I've never been someone that goes out all the time however when I do go out I often end up pished.

I was out for a few on Friday after work and ended up back at 2.30am with no clue of leaving the pub or getting home. The guy I was with said it was all good however I've still got the fear. Proper ruined my weekend.

Oh, and I've got my stag doo next week!

nothingelseworked
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3540 posts since 21/2/10

posted 5 Aug 2018 17:04, edited 5 Aug 2018 17:04
Currently drink (and nursing a hangover), but did go dry for about 10 months about 7-8 years ago just to give it a go.

Health-wise felt amazing, there is a noticeable difference - especially when working out, it felt like a huge barrier disappeared, both in terms of diet and exercise ethic. Full weekend to enjoy with no hangover. Save a lot of fucking $$$. You begin to realise that you only see some people over a drink or that a lot of your personal/leisure time is just spent boozing and it's kind of eye-opening.

Nights out and some social situations quickly become zzzzzzzz. Realise everyone is fucking annoying when drunk. Went home by like 11/12 most of the time. Definitely missed out on a lot socially, especially work-wise - there's a lot of bonding/camaraderie that disappear imo. Personally quite out-going, though, so could still enjoy nights without sauce, but booze make a difference for everyone no matter what teetotal people say. Meme below sums it up.



Don't think I could manage it again where I am currently in life. Different for everyone, though. Probably easier to do post-kid, marriage, etc.
swede
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8748 posts since 21/3/09

5 Aug 2018 17:23
Recently I’ve been intrigued about taking a year off, but feel I’d be missing out on a lot socially
quest
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3488 posts since 11/7/11

posted 5 Aug 2018 17:35, edited 5 Aug 2018 17:35
Before working on rotation, I was drinking a lot socially and going big cause my mates do. But since I can now only drink 2 in every 7 weeks (breathalysed before entering site and has to read zero) and try not to go heavy during my off time, I feel far far more clear headed, healthier, sleeping miles better, doing better in the gym and shift body fat a lot easier etc… I didn't expect to feel this good so I'd say give it a go after your stag.
Doogan
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712 posts since 13/4/14

5 Aug 2018 17:36
My hangovers are terrible, both physically and mentally. I've had very little to eat this weekend and I'm not looking forward to work tomorrow (and probably won't sleep tonight). I'm 34 as well - not a young laddie anymore.

I've gone a few months without it before and did feel good. I think I'll need to try again and keep it going as I cant trust myself once I start.
pops
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4135 posts since 2/9/09

5 Aug 2018 17:38
nothingelseworked wrote: Probably easier to do post-kid

Trust me - that’s when you’ll need it most
smith
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10916 posts since 5/5/04

5 Aug 2018 18:01
Gone tea-total for a year before and turned into a recluse because it's the only way to survive. Going out when everyone else is drinking is just shit.

Go football most weekends and try to stick to drinking only at away games otherwise you're on it every weekend and everyone knows just a couple pints can quickly become 10 pints with the right (or wrong?) company.

If I drink, I go big. Can't help it. What I also find myself doing is not eating when I binge drink and then playing sport the next day or going on a long run till I can't move anymore just to sweat it all out. Helps with the recovery time.
morgan
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936 posts since 22/2/11

5 Aug 2018 18:02
I get the fear on Monday morning if I go big on a Friday.
I am 45 so they’re pretty nasty these days.
I went 6 months last year without and the weight just drops off of you’re gym/biking whatever.

I can’t ever imagine giving up totally but the hangovers are just terrible.
Add drugs to that and you’re looking at a week at least of feeling like death warmed up.
gonzoking
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787 posts since 13/3/11

5 Aug 2018 18:04
pops wrote:
nothingelseworked wrote: Probably easier to do post-kid

Trust me - that’s when you’ll need it most

You would think so wouldn't you but now I have a kid I realise that was a pipe dream, if you are seriously considering giving up then give it a go before kids, if you already drink then work + tiredness from looking after small ones makes you feel like you need a drink.
Doogan
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712 posts since 13/4/14

5 Aug 2018 18:08
I always assume something terrible has occured if I blackout. I seem to suffer from that far more severly than anyone else I've spoken too. This weekend has been a write off as well. So shite!
bungleski
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324 posts since 21/7/11

5 Aug 2018 19:15
gonzoking wrote:
pops wrote:
nothingelseworked wrote: Probably easier to do post-kid

Trust me - that’s when you’ll need it most

You would think so wouldn't you but now I have a kid I realise that was a pipe dream, if you are seriously considering giving up then give it a go before kids, if you already drink then work + tiredness from looking after small ones makes you feel like you need a drink.

This. 100%. Kids are great, but fucking hard work at times. I don’t drink loads, but I couldn’t go tee total.

Doogan wrote: Anyone here knocked the booze on the head? I've never been someone that goes out all the time however when I do go out I often end up pished.

I was out for a few on Friday after work and ended up back at 2.30am with no clue of leaving the pub or getting home. The guy I was with said it was all good however I've still got the fear. Proper ruined my weekend.

Oh, and I've got my stag doo next week!

Fear of what? Do you have a track record of being a fucking nightmare when you’re pissed (at 34 you’d know about it by now) if not then it most likely was all good.
Best advice for the stag do…. Difficult one if you get the fear after a few jars on a Friday. I was a write off for about 3 days after mine. Drink water, stay off the shots, don’t do drugs. At the end of the day unless your stag do is afternoon tea and a pottery class, you need to accept it’s going to get messy.
Doogan
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712 posts since 13/4/14

5 Aug 2018 19:44
^Not really tbh. The usual is that I go very quiet and zombie like. I'm not aggressive or anything like that.

Aye, will try to drink water in between drinks and be sensible. This is probably a good reminder ahead of going away.
nothingelseworked
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3540 posts since 21/2/10

posted 5 Aug 2018 20:48, edited 5 Aug 2018 20:48
Just sounds like you need to manage your drinking pace better (good luck with that on a stag, though) or eat more before boozing. You're hitting your peak early.

Post-work drinks are always dangerous 'cause last time you eat is lunch. Get some crisps in, fam.

Or just bash some lines of gak. Drinking will be limitless.
MLI
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5173 posts since 6/10/09

5 Aug 2018 21:05
Doogan wrote: Aye, will try to drink water in between drinks and be sensible.

Don't do this, it lowers your tolerance for alcohol. What you want to do is build up your drinking strength, just stick to alcohol only but learn how to manage how fast you drink. Drink regularly, don't go long stretches without it or the next time you drink you'll be sick. Just slow and steady, don't go too many days with none.
MLI
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5173 posts since 6/10/09

6 Aug 2018 08:33
morgan wrote: I get the fear on Monday morning if I go big on a Friday.
I am 45 so they’re pretty nasty these days.
I went 6 months last year without and the weight just drops off of you’re gym/biking whatever.

I can’t ever imagine giving up totally but the hangovers are just terrible.
Add drugs to that and you’re looking at a week at least of feeling like death warmed up.
morgan wrote: I get the fear on Monday morning if I go big on a Friday.
I am 45 so they’re pretty nasty these days.
I went 6 months last year without and the weight just drops off of you’re gym/biking whatever.

I can’t ever imagine giving up totally but the hangovers are just terrible.
Add drugs to that and you’re looking at a week at least of feeling like death warmed up.

You're so weak. I'm your age but I'm still built like a boxer/marathon runner and drink whenever I want, usually a 6 pack a night. I eat SPAM and bread as my main diet. You're a fucking pussy.
toocan
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821 posts since 7/11/07

6 Aug 2018 09:14
Have a read up on "Glutamate rebound" its different in different people and as you age it gets worse. Its also what makes you feel emotionally gimped, Id imagine vitamins or supplements before/after could help but I just tend to ride it out. If you find anything that does share you results!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2443746/
maximus
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1724 posts since 13/7/06

6 Aug 2018 09:23
MLI wrote:
morgan wrote: I get the fear on Monday morning if I go big on a Friday.
I am 45 so they’re pretty nasty these days.
I went 6 months last year without and the weight just drops off of you’re gym/biking whatever.

I can’t ever imagine giving up totally but the hangovers are just terrible.
Add drugs to that and you’re looking at a week at least of feeling like death warmed up.
morgan wrote: I get the fear on Monday morning if I go big on a Friday.
I am 45 so they’re pretty nasty these days.
I went 6 months last year without and the weight just drops off of you’re gym/biking whatever.

I can’t ever imagine giving up totally but the hangovers are just terrible.
Add drugs to that and you’re looking at a week at least of feeling like death warmed up.

You're so weak. I'm your age but I'm still built like a boxer/marathon runner and drink whenever I want, usually a 6 pack a night. I eat SPAM and bread as my main diet. You're a fucking pussy.

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maximus
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1724 posts since 13/7/06

6 Aug 2018 09:26
I'm 36 gave up booze and drugs at 28 after I had heart surgery, from 20-28 it was pretty much every weekend on booze and drugs. Feel great for it, all my mates are overweight and look about 60 because they all still cane it. Hasn't really impacted me socially, you get used to it after a while and people stop asking 'why aren't you drinking'
phikz
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3128 posts since 14/4/09

6 Aug 2018 09:51
nothingelseworked wrote: Health-wise felt amazing, there is a noticeable difference - especially when working out, it felt like a huge barrier disappeared, both in terms of diet and exercise ethic. Full weekend to enjoy with no hangover. Save a lot of fucking $$$. You begin to realise that you only see some people over a drink or that a lot of your personal/leisure time is just spent boozing and it's kind of eye-opening.

Pretty much this and I'm only 4 months deep. It's given me mad clarity, I've become so much more in tune with myself and feel emotionally stable and cognitively sharp. My decision making is better and you begin to realise how many poor choices were driven by the sauce, and I don't just mean those immediate ones while under the influence. The after-effects of alcohol/drugs are incessant and essentially never leave when you're on it every weekend.

Generally, I just feel way more energised and full of conviction. If you suffer from any sort of depression/anxiety/confidence issues too you'll be amazed at how quickly those feelings start to evaporate.

Physically, I feel much more trim, with better skin, hair, eyes etc. Internally I can sense that I'm functioning more efficiently too… 'new body who dis' kinda vibe. Also had some problems with my heart (pericarditis) the past year or so and that's pretty much gone.

I still go out no problem but I'm just more selective and it can be tough to see some of your associates through the harsh lens of sobriety. I'm only 26 but it just got the point where I looked ahead and wasn't looking to feebly roll into my 30's without a clue. Different for everyone of course and I guess a lot of people can enjoy alcohol without excess but if that isn't you then it's probably best to just knock it on the head. Smash your stag do and then give it a try.

For the single mandem looking to draw girls then trust me alcohol ain't helping you either. I've had a few amazing experiences since that I know I definitely woulda shanked if I'd been drinking.

Doogan
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712 posts since 13/4/14

6 Aug 2018 10:31
Some great advice here cheers. Will be looking to sack it off after next weeks final hurrah. It's not easy. There's always something happening.

If it was just the physical symptoms I would be ok but it's the mental stuff that effects me most.

I've been taking citalopram for approx 2 years to help with anxiety and that definitely hasn't been a good mix with the booze. I'm actually winding those down now and will come off them in 2months.

In addition I've been eating better, training regularly at the gym, cycling and even started mindfuless. Just need to knock the binges on the head and I'll be sorted.