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smith
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10916 posts since 5/5/04

6 Aug 2018 11:10
Of course not drinking does have huge benefits but you have to pretty much keep yourself busy with non-drinking activities (at least I did). Maybe this thread can be used to follow fukers progress after giving up, as it is a huge commitment when you're not forced to due to health issues, as I found out over my year off it.
phikz
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3128 posts since 14/4/09

posted 6 Aug 2018 12:11, edited 6 Aug 2018 12:11
Doogan wrote: Some great advice here cheers. Will be looking to sack it off after next weeks final hurrah. It's not easy. There's always something happening.

If it was just the physical symptoms I would be ok but it's the mental stuff that effects me most.

I've been taking citalopram for approx 2 years to help with anxiety and that definitely hasn't been a good mix with the booze. I'm actually winding those down now and will come off them in 2months.

In addition I've been eating better, training regularly at the gym, cycling and even started mindfuless. Just need to knock the binges on the head and I'll be sorted.

Yeah, alcohol excess is playing havoc with your serotonin levels at the very least so I doubt the citalopram is functioning too well.

Just to say that I don't think quitting alcohol is a cure-all,but i'd guess that for much of the population it's the number 1 'excess' in their lives, yet often seems to be the last thing they're willing to change (behind diet, exercise, smoking etc). Quitting at the very least will likely give you a lot of self-satisfaction and confidence in your ability to control your mental state.. Which'll put you in good stead for continuous improvement in other areas.
Doogan
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712 posts since 13/4/14

6 Aug 2018 12:43
I used to take the odd Christian Benteke when I was younger although not touched them for about 8/9 years. Can't have done any good either.

Razorlight123
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4611 posts since 13/1/10

posted 6 Aug 2018 15:40, edited 6 Aug 2018 15:40
Kinda stopped drinking since Christmas, I tend to only drink maybe once a month?! Even then that's a beer/wine if I'm at a meal, nothing excessive.

Used to go on nights out and drink quite often prior to then, but I just came to a point where I thought, what's the point and stopped.

Crackajack
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7550 posts since 21/4/05

6 Aug 2018 17:14
toocan wrote: Have a read up on "Glutamate rebound" its different in different people and as you age it gets worse. Its also what makes you feel emotionally gimped, Id imagine vitamins or supplements before/after could help but I just tend to ride it out. If you find anything that does share you results!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2443746/

Anyone clocked a supplement for this? I get most of the symptoms and they make hangovers so much worse, don't really get headaches etc

Scottishmark
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610 posts since 25/1/11

6 Aug 2018 17:27
Interesting thread. I’m 28 and the longest I’ve done is 7 months. I fully appreciate the positives of not drinking, bit then there are so many negatives too, particularly in relation to the camaraderie built when essentially being wrecked.

It’s also quite difficult in my line of work. We are expected to attend a lot of social events and wine and dine. It always seems odd when you’re doing the dining, but not the wining, when a client is doing both. Just typical shite Scottish (or British) culture I suppose.

What can you do?!
morgan
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936 posts since 22/2/11

6 Aug 2018 17:52

You're so weak. I'm your age but I'm still built like a boxer/marathon runner and drink whenever I want, usually a 6 pack a night. I eat SPAM and bread as my main diet. You're a fucking pussy.

You’re a skinny fucking runt and I’d kick the living shit outta you even when I’m hungover.
You may be the biggest cunt I’ve ever come across in life and that’s saying something.
I’m quite sure you get a good kicking every other weekend if you act like this in the real world.
I think it’s just an internet persona you have trying to act the tough guy when in reality you stay home drinking warm Fosters and playing with your little soldiers alone.
Now fuck off and don’t come back. You alone ruin this forum for me.
carlos
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962 posts since 20/1/08

6 Aug 2018 17:56
I’ve not had a sesh since my 21st and I’m now 35.
Can’t say I miss it in the slightest. That said I have the occasional cider/beer/G&T - like twice a month, but never more than two.

My old man got knocked off his motorbike and killed by a drunk driver so I guess that’s why I don’t care for it much.
joeyjojo
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4258 posts since 24/8/06

6 Aug 2018 18:47
morgan wrote:
You're so weak. I'm your age but I'm still built like a boxer/marathon runner and drink whenever I want, usually a 6 pack a night. I eat SPAM and bread as my main diet. You're a fucking pussy.

You’re a skinny fucking runt and I’d kick the living shit outta you even when I’m hungover.
You may be the biggest cunt I’ve ever come across in life and that’s saying something.
I’m quite sure you get a good kicking every other weekend if you act like this in the real world.
I think it’s just an internet persona you have trying to act the tough guy when in reality you stay home drinking warm Fosters and playing with your little soldiers alone.
Now fuck off and don’t come back. You alone ruin this forum for me.

Absolutely. Without doubt. The best post on this forum since Noble banged the bin man out.
Doogan
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712 posts since 13/4/14

6 Aug 2018 19:02
Any tips for quitting the binging? I can usually last a month or two before I will inevitably dip my toe back in the water and have a few civilised drinks, at which point I think I've cracked it. Until the next night out where I will get wasted, can't remember part of the night and then go through the vicious cycle I described in the OP.

Interestingly enough, I've never once gone out with the intention of getting hammered. I just don't seem to have the off switch that some people have. I never know which drink(s) will tip me over that edge.

Razorlight123
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4611 posts since 13/1/10

6 Aug 2018 20:00
If you start mixing spirits with beers that's a sure fire way to achieve a blackout.
LFC
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4453 posts since 14/6/11

7 Aug 2018 07:43
I’m 32. I’ve been pissed probably twice since finding out my Mrs was pregnant in June 2016 with her 1st and my 3rd kid.

Before that I was a daily drinker and binge drinker. Served in pubs from 15 and from there on it every day off from school and work and every weekend even after my first 2 kids were born which even ended that relationship (still have my kids 15 times a month through shared custody).

Met my new Mrs and were out every opportunity spending £100’s even going to the local ‘for a couple’ as it always ended up pints, vodkas, jagerbombs wether it was mid-day or midnight.

June 16 rolls round and found out she’s preggers. All just comes to a stop. Mrs obviously for the Baby. First time I even just had a few beers in the house was for the World Cup and it was litterally 1 or 2.

I thought the weight might start coming off a bit but I think I eat more now and I get my joy from that rather than the beer Laughing out loud

Can’t say I’ve missed it that much really, enjoy spending the time with my kids more.

Also hangovers were fuckin terrible, always sick, mega headaches, so defo don’t miss that.
swede
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8747 posts since 21/3/09

7 Aug 2018 08:03
Crackajack wrote:
toocan wrote: Have a read up on "Glutamate rebound" its different in different people and as you age it gets worse. Its also what makes you feel emotionally gimped, Id imagine vitamins or supplements before/after could help but I just tend to ride it out. If you find anything that does share you results!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2443746/

Anyone clocked a supplement for this? I get most of the symptoms and they make hangovers so much worse, don't really get headaches etc

benzos
toocan
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821 posts since 7/11/07

7 Aug 2018 09:27
swede wrote:
Crackajack wrote:
toocan wrote: Have a read up on "Glutamate rebound" its different in different people and as you age it gets worse. Its also what makes you feel emotionally gimped, Id imagine vitamins or supplements before/after could help but I just tend to ride it out. If you find anything that does share you results!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2443746/

Anyone clocked a supplement for this? I get most of the symptoms and they make hangovers so much worse, don't really get headaches etc

benzos

Theirs a ton of info on the nootropics sub reddit but its all over the place and I lost patience with trying to sift through fact and opinion but https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/5r0wnq/tips_for_dealing_with_glutamate_rebounds/ is a starting point
swede
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8747 posts since 21/3/09

posted 7 Aug 2018 10:03, edited 7 Aug 2018 10:03
pharmacologically speaking, anything that stops glutamine production (and subsequent rebound) like alcohol or benzos - will in turn result in glutamine rebound. that is just how the brain works - it is in a constant state of homeostasis.

I would however love to be proved wrong, but this is why all "miracle hangover cures" are bollocks (pm snaye). all you can do to remedy it is to get back on it or treat the symptoms
illwill
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4017 posts since 17/5/04

7 Aug 2018 10:43
I have no idea what kind of long term damage I'm doing but 5mg diazepam before bed and 5mg when I wake up does wonders for sleep quality and any headache/nausea/anxiety the day after.

swede
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8747 posts since 21/3/09

7 Aug 2018 11:14
only damage you'd be doing is putting yourself at risk of tolerance/dependence. if you're smart about and aware of the risks - I don't see any issues with doing that
carlos
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962 posts since 20/1/08

posted 7 Aug 2018 11:21, edited 7 Aug 2018 11:21
illwill wrote: I'm doing but 5mg diazepam before bed and 5mg when I wake up does wonders for sleep quality

Looked through the drugs thread but can’t find into - anyone got an idea where I can get diazepam these days without a script?
illwill
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4017 posts since 17/5/04

7 Aug 2018 11:44
Dream Market is 45 quid for 60x 10mg in branded blister pack.

Beware any loose or unbranded.
Doogan
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712 posts since 13/4/14

7 Aug 2018 11:49
LFC wrote: I’m 32. I’ve been pissed probably twice since finding out my Mrs was pregnant in June 2016 with her 1st and my 3rd kid.

Before that I was a daily drinker and binge drinker. Served in pubs from 15 and from there on it every day off from school and work and every weekend even after my first 2 kids were born which even ended that relationship (still have my kids 15 times a month through shared custody).

Met my new Mrs and were out every opportunity spending £100’s even going to the local ‘for a couple’ as it always ended up pints, vodkas, jagerbombs wether it was mid-day or midnight.

June 16 rolls round and found out she’s preggers. All just comes to a stop. Mrs obviously for the Baby. First time I even just had a few beers in the house was for the World Cup and it was litterally 1 or 2.

I thought the weight might start coming off a bit but I think I eat more now and I get my joy from that rather than the beer Laughing out loud

Can’t say I’ve missed it that much really, enjoy spending the time with my kids more.

Also hangovers were fuckin terrible, always sick, mega headaches, so defo don’t miss that.

How did you go about stopping like that? I can go a while without a drink but at some point I'll get tempted and can't guarantee it won't end in a sesh. I don't even do anything too mental - the usual 5 - 12/1am sesh that most folk do (rarely go to clubs).

It's Tuesday and I'm still fucked from Friday! The party is over.

Boy from work saying that I was fine but my paranoia is searching for something to worry about. Sakes.