Mr.X.
3185 posts since 23/6/13
posted 21 Nov 2016 08:12, edited 21 Nov 2016 08:12
That's all great but Fed and Rafa at their peak would beat him easily so if he's the best our country can do we're pretty shit.
With the exception of 100m Olympic sports are a joke.
21 Nov 2016 10:00
…we're pretty shit?
Wha? this country is SPORT.
Without getting into the "is it a sport" debate. I just cant class Hamilton as great.
snaye
11116 posts since 24/10/02
21 Nov 2016 12:57
Pretty sure it was a Wimbledon thread until you turned it into the 'I'd like to give Andy Murray a rimjob' thread
misled
4500 posts since 3/1/02
21 Nov 2016 13:37
Fed, Rafa and Nole are possibly the best players the sport has ever seen so to be in their time and still manage to keep going and reach these achievements shows amazing character and determination. Personally can't understand the hate, 3 grand slams, 2 olympic golds and No.1 in the world speaks for itself
stoney
17816 posts since 22/1/05
21 Nov 2016 17:54
True. I'm not quite rimming him yet but I'm a fan.
Got a good start to the year, not many points to defend so looks good.
posted 21 Nov 2016 22:03, edited 21 Nov 2016 22:03
misled wrote: Fed, Rafa and Nole are possibly the best players the sport has ever seen so to be in their time and still manage to keep going and reach these achievements shows amazing character and determination. Personally can't understand the hate, 3 grand slams, 2 olympic golds and No.1 in the world speaks for itself
Exactly. Three of the all time greats ever all in Andy's era yet he's still managed slams, olympics & almost every ATP tour. He's close to winning ever tournament on the tennis calendar, if he did it he'd be the first ever.
Problem with the whole 'greatest british player ever' thing is that other sports have different variables etc. so it's chalk and cheese to an extent. Farah & Hoy are up there but you could argue about teams helping Redgrave, Hamilton, Wiggins.
I presume he'll be ploughing a shitload of practise into clay after a break off as that's the one he wants to win next season. Hopefully he can, improved a lot this season on it.
misled
4500 posts since 3/1/02
22 Nov 2016 10:54
He must be gunning for the Aus open too. Djok has ruled it for years but must be a good chance this Jan
22 Nov 2016 12:05
"Hamilton needs to be in a team with someone as consistent and fast as him (vettel, riccardo, maxi) before he can be regarded an all time great. It's basically a two horse race every year."
I think that kinda answers itself - he's had the measure of Alonso, Button and Rosberg as teammates in his career. Despite a wobbly start to this year he's shown his class again (even if Rosberg probably deserves it more for consistency), and from my POV there's no doubt he's an all time great.
Don't disagree with your assessment of Murray though. It's been exciting to watch someone with the potential become number one. Hopefully it carries through to next year and more grand slams!
Mr.X.
3185 posts since 23/6/13
22 Nov 2016 17:01
He hasn't won all the slams, not a true great, yet. Everyone knows that's the barometer for a tennis legend.
stoney
17816 posts since 22/1/05
22 Nov 2016 17:39
I wonder where his place in the all time list is, top 40 maybe probs outside that. Deffo not tennis legend yet.
snaye
11116 posts since 24/10/02
22 Nov 2016 17:44
Who's number 1 on that list, Fed?
Mr.X.
3185 posts since 23/6/13
22 Nov 2016 23:48
The thing about the slams is that it encompasses all the surfaces. Olympics don't, Zica ruined Rio and in 2012 he had a home nation behind him as he does at Wimbledon each year.
His mum is annoying, she ain't Uncle Toni.