General Discussion: Black Lives Matter


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Mr.X.
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3069 posts since 23/6/13

8 Jun 2020 10:56
Also your love and respect, deepest sympathies are written as if it’s conditional which means you really don’t care at all.
jacko198
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516 posts since 23/10/09

8 Jun 2020 11:02
Mr.X. wrote: Your silence makes you complicit to the white privilege racism

Bullshit
swiftus
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1400 posts since 1/7/09

posted 8 Jun 2020 11:03, edited 8 Jun 2020 11:03
Superprecise wrote: One thing I'm not going to do however is virtue signal and browbeat my white liberal friends on social media, or regurgitate memes and slogans.

What are your friends doing that counts as virtue-signalling and browbeating?

Most my people on my feeds have been pretty informative, sharing books on race/identity (e.g. White Fragility, So You Want To Talk About Race), and positive actions that you can take (e.g. donate to organisations, petitions).

I hadn't heard of either of those books, and they seem interesting. Are the above things considered to be virtue-signalling?

EDIT: No idea if Mr X is trolling, so I'm just ignoring his posts
ChrisAlright
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1462 posts since 29/6/08

8 Jun 2020 11:09
Obviously he's trolling
ismvil
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1615 posts since 16/9/11

8 Jun 2020 11:10
This is fuk, we all be trolling
FrIEND
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13667 posts since 27/11/03

8 Jun 2020 11:17
Mr.X. wrote: Not browbeating your liberal white friends? Did you actually write that….?

Since this is a massively white privileged forum the least I could do is bring it to the whole community's attention. At least you've commented. The silence of others speaks volumes.

What changes are you going to make in your day to day life that will help? (other than realising your white privilege and starting a thread)?

Genuinely don’t know what people are meant to do that will provide short term answers….Anything useful will require years before it’s even evident that a change might have happened.
pentonville
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8 Jun 2020 11:18
Can we have fudge dread back please?
sodomgomorra
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8 Jun 2020 11:24
https://youtu.be/goh2x_G0ct4

Uncanny.
pops
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8 Jun 2020 11:28
ChrisAlright wrote: Obviously he's trolling

Unless he’s had a ‘road to Damascus’ moment (I Know how much you like the bible Marty) he’s trolling. I won’t waste my time trying to locate his previous comments but we’ve all seen the hateful bile that he spouts off
quest
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posted 8 Jun 2020 11:31, edited 8 Jun 2020 11:31
mr x you should invite the local black community to your house to give you a bare bottom paddling, only retribution i can think of !
sodomgomorra
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8 Jun 2020 11:33

https://youtu.be/QnJFhuOWgXg

So good.
Crackajack
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7864 posts since 21/4/05

8 Jun 2020 11:45
X is trolling.
darko
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posted 8 Jun 2020 11:45, edited 8 Jun 2020 11:45
swiftus wrote:
Superprecise wrote: One thing I'm not going to do however is virtue signal and browbeat my white liberal friends on social media, or regurgitate memes and slogans.

What are your friends doing that counts as virtue-signalling and browbeating?

I agree with most of superprecise's post

virtue-signalling is related to intent i guess and is pretty difficult to 100% ascertain unless you can read someone's mind

there's a difference between ordering a book, reading it cover-to-cover and genuinely educating yourself (or making a donation to a worthwhile charity)
vs
thoughtlessly plastering shit all over your instagram story that you (in all likelihood) haven't read in order to make yourself look informed, or vacuously donating a measly amount to a cause and then posting screenshots of it all over social media to make you feel good about yourself

i don't buy into this 'silence is complicit' stuff either, just because someone hasn't spammed the shit out of social media and explicitly stated they aren't racist doesn't mean that they aren't well intentioned
FrIEND
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13667 posts since 27/11/03

8 Jun 2020 11:55
Completely - people do things in all sorts of ways. Silence is complicit is an awful approach in forcing people to react.
Mr.X.
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3069 posts since 23/6/13

8 Jun 2020 11:59
FriEnd - What am I doing?

I'm educating myself and I expect it to be a continual process of learning.
I have a 14 month son I will educate him too. To live a better life we all need to realise the racism is ingrained in our life and be united and stop putting ourselves first.
Mr.X.
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posted 8 Jun 2020 12:04, edited 8 Jun 2020 12:04
I guess you could say I've had an apostle Paul Road to Damascus style experience in the last few years so get the dislike received by many. The subject matter is what's important here though.
FrIEND
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13667 posts since 27/11/03

8 Jun 2020 12:04
Ah ok. I think people know that but good on you.
Mr.X.
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posted 8 Jun 2020 12:07, edited 8 Jun 2020 12:07
I don't think people do know that! If they did we wouldn't live in country that is catering for whites over colour. Do you accept your own white privilege and what are you doing?
FrIEND
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13667 posts since 27/11/03

8 Jun 2020 12:15
Yep - big time. Have done for ages.

The thing is you’re calling people out on it - and it’s slightly more difficult for people to make an active change if they’re not coming from a point of not realising it.
Best
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8 Jun 2020 12:22
Crackajack wrote: X is trolling.

This. And what a stupid topic to pick.