21 Jun 2011 21:35
Boing wrote: I'm sorry HW, you are obviously a very intelligent guy, but you can't just over these analyse things and keep coming with these sweeping statements as facts, life isn't just a set of statistics.
You put it so much better than i could. Thank you.
No beef whatsoever hw, but this is the point i was trying to make mate.
21 Jun 2011 21:42
I worked as a bin man one summer (CSB) and that was the roughest job I've had to do, I think that is what most people think of as working class. But my mum is a classroom assistant and my dad works doing something with diggers and these kind of jobs and also hourly wage stuff like call centers and fast food McJobs are the new working class. I think only 10% of the population earn over 40k a year, so that automatically puts you in middle class territory.
CovOne
8564 posts since 17/8/04
21 Jun 2011 21:45
Binmen in the Midlands can earn upto around 40k a year and are on about a 25k basic.
21 Jun 2011 21:46
Bin men are public sector thats a level up.
LFC
2048 posts since 14/6/11
21 Jun 2011 21:55
I'm defo working class. Been grafting since I was 14, now 25.
21 Jun 2011 21:57
its your rents how you are determined dipper, not you.
LFC
2048 posts since 14/6/11
21 Jun 2011 21:59
Ah right. Defo working class.
R
12883 posts since 17/5/03
21 Jun 2011 22:02
working class
Dasein
1414 posts since 1/11/09
21 Jun 2011 22:04
im pikey class because my parents cheated/cheat the goverment
phikz
3057 posts since 14/4/09
21 Jun 2011 22:22
Jordan, you ain't serious? Think most working class either have a laugh and a joke about being working class or they make really crass attempts at being middle-class, must have noticed this no? It's like acceptance, denial and standing on an audacious pedestal all at once.
21 Jun 2011 22:24
phikz wrote: standing on an audacious pedestal
Farrell's middle class.
phikz
3057 posts since 14/4/09
21 Jun 2011 22:30
Oh, and pretty much the middle class only mock and pity the lower classes. Or attempt to almost reify the 'idea' into something they understand and want it to be. As they don't really get it.
Ciaran
883 posts since 18/4/10
21 Jun 2011 22:49
Phikz bang on on both of those, I've realised im no good at making points on a forum so will shut up
deuce
13155 posts since 21/1/08
21 Jun 2011 23:46
Ciaran wrote: Noble Locks wrote: like fuck is it.
This, +1 and cosigned.
Don't get how anyone who's working class would think it's cool to be working class, it isn't it's proper graft. Either your the exception or you ain't working class. Obviously some people are proud of what class they come from (I am and so are all my family) but I'd fucking love it even more and so would my family if theyd had the oppurtunity to be a nice middle class family doing non physical work earning regular money in a 9-5 when I was growing up. Think most people in the working class bit would agree with me aswell?
cba to backtrack, but i was taking the piss about working class being cool - was just a sarcastic reply to eent
22 Jun 2011 00:50
shop in first post is