General Discussion: customs fuckers


andydavidleeroth
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1691 posts since 30/11/03

8 Feb 2007 17:22
i expected to maybe pay some V.A.T on some boots i bought from ebay USA, it turned out to be £11.00.
On top of that, parcelforce are demanding £13.50 "clearance fee", in other words just because they can.

i have found out out that the boots were actually made in Italy, and therefore V.A.T has already been paid on them once.

THerefore, the V.A.T i was supposed to pay is not justified, and therefore neither is the parcelforce clearance fee.



The invoice demanding this money says that i have to pay and then argue later, or else they will be returned to sender.

so…how do i get MY money back.?

[size=24]How To Work Out Import Duty[/size]

[size=18]To find the duty percentage for your item[/size]

Look up the item's category on the European TARIC website.

The amount of duty to be paid is the percentage multiplied by the cost / value of the item including any shipping costs.

eg: if your item is valued at £100 including shipping, and your duty rate is 10%, then the duty to be paid is £100 x 0.10 = £10

[size=18]Import VAT[/size]

This is charged at the normal UK rate (ie 20% for most things) on the total cost / value of the item including shipping and Import Duty.

So to use the example above, £110 x 0.20 = £22

So the total cost of your item will be £132, potentially plus a handling fee.

[size=18]Notes[/size]

No Import VAT on items sent from within the EU.

There is Import VAT on items sent from anywhere else in the World, or one of the EU 'Special Territories' (The Aland Islands (Finland), The Canary Islands (Spain), The Channel Islands (UK), The French Overseas Departments of Guadeloupe, French Guiana, Martinique and Reunion, and Mount Athos also known as Agion Poros (Greece))

Customs Duty is only payable on goods from outside the EU over a certain value:

Goods Value

£0.01 to £15 - No customs duty / No Import VAT

£15.01 to £135 - No customs duty / Import VAT due

£135.01 and greater - Customs duty due, but waived if the amount calculated due is less than £9 / Import VAT due

[size=18]Links[/size]

http://www.dutycalculator.com

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/tax-and-duty.htm

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageVAT_ShowContent&id;=HMCE_CL_000014&propertyType;=document

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/taric_consultation.jsp?Lang=en
Gemini
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2593 posts since 2/12/02

8 Feb 2007 19:28
go into parcelforce hq with 3 9mm's, 1 in each hand and one in your sock just incase. Start shooting at peoples knees. When they notice your around and start firing back, deflect the bullets with your 53mm u-boat watch and make your way upstairs to the big man. When you get there check outside for any mushrooms and if there's a power flower grab it as you may need this later if you run out of ammo. Go inside and take out any fuckers that are guarding the bastard. The boss man should stand up at this point, shoot both his knees in and tell him that unless he cancels your clearence fee you are going to unleash the wrath of your 9mm's and then explode some fire balls on his ass because you're having a bad day. Works every time dude, trust me.
india
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5661 posts since 31/10/05

8 Feb 2007 19:38
ring up. you have to pay first though. then you have to save postage and payment details.

customs no. is 02476212860

you will have to send the stuff to them.

they send you a cheque back.
Capo866
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178 posts since 15/1/07

8 Feb 2007 19:38
show them proof theat they were made in italy and that you didn't have to pay the money
Rirawin
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9231 posts since 17/7/05

8 Feb 2007 19:41
Doesn't matter surely where they're made? and even if they're made in Italy, doesn't mean they're actually made in Italy…

Should've asked the seller to mark the value down.
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

8 Feb 2007 19:44
Capo866 wrote: show them proof theat they were made in italy and that you didn't have to pay the money
thats brilliant news..and you are one million per cent this is a true fact yes. i was certain what ririwan has said is the truth, it doesnt matter a thing where the goods are made, its where they are sent from..i have been importing and exporting for 10 years and have spent so much money paying customs charges etc, know you have said this, it might even change my life…nice one, you dont know how grateful i am that you have told me this, please confirm for me tho before i open the shampers.

*rushes to fone and rings hong kong and tells his supplier to write 'Made in Italy' on all his phone shipments*
Capo866
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178 posts since 15/1/07

8 Feb 2007 19:49
Noble Locks. wrote:
Capo866 wrote: show them proof theat they were made in italy and that you didn't have to pay the money
thats brilliant news..and you are one million per cent this is a true fact yes. i was certain what ririwan has said is the truth, it doesnt matter a thing where the goods are made, its where they are sent from..i have been importing and exporting for 10 years and have spent so much money paying customs charges etc, know you have said this, it might even change my life…nice one, you dont know how grateful i am that you have told me this, please confirm for me tho before i open the shampers.

*rushes to fone and rings hong kong and tells his supplier to write 'Made in Italy' on all his phone shipments*


he seemed very convinced that he didn't have to pay the vat, so i just stated the obvious
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

8 Feb 2007 19:52
ahh gutted now. Cry
andydavidleeroth
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1691 posts since 30/11/03

8 Feb 2007 23:40
things made in Europe have already had VAT paid on them, that is why we do not pay customs on items from europe.
once V.A.T is paid, it is supposed to be paid forever.

Effectively i have bought these shoes from europe, via America.
they were marked down, a lot.
ng51online
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3 posts since 29/11/06

8 Feb 2007 23:46
That's absurb….. The seller should have understated the value so that customs wouldn't have charged you…
andydavidleeroth
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1691 posts since 30/11/03

8 Feb 2007 23:47
he did, but not enough

btw..i am much more bothered about the "parcelforce clearance fee" than the V.A.T
andydavidleeroth
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1691 posts since 30/11/03

13 Feb 2007 01:09
The country of origin is NOT the country from where the product is shipped. The country of origin is the country where the product was manufactured
SOS
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6483 posts since 12/10/04

13 Feb 2007 01:37
maybe some VAT has been paid,but your buying at retail dont forget, they paid VAt on wholesale and will have claimed it back.

Example…

Factory makes the boots and sells £10 a pair then ship them to the buyer in at £11.7 if they pay VAT, they then sell them to you for say £30, leaves you paying £35.1 . I have to charge VAT on goods, aswell as pay it when they arrive. The buck always lands at the consumers door in the end.


Rufio
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5994 posts since 11/10/05

13 Feb 2007 11:29
Laughing out loud Noble you cunt!
Rufio
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5994 posts since 11/10/05

13 Feb 2007 11:30
Oh and davileedof….. gutted Laughing out loud
canela
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3 posts since 13/6/08

13 Jun 2008 10:06
I am hoping that someone will be able to help me regarding VAT and parcel force. I moved here from San Francisco in 2007 bringing all my personal belongings with me including my laptop which were exempt from any VAT and custom charges.
Last month my laptop crashed and I found out that the extended warranty I purchased in California was not valid here in the UK. A few weeks after it crashed my mom died so I went home to California taking my laptop with me where I sent it to be repaired and had it sent to my sister-in-law who then sent it back to me.
Yesterday I got a letter from parcelforce saying I had to pay a £63.81 V.A.T and £13.50 clearnce fees. Why do I have to pay these fees on my laptop which was purchased in California 2 freaking years ago that was exempt from VAT's and custom fees when I moved here? I have tried to call the customs number they listed on the letter but have had no joy as the line is constantly busy and I have tried all day. Can someone help me?!!!!!

Canela
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

17 Sep 2009 11:40
anyway having this, i left an old jacket in the hotel room when i left the states last week, rang them from the airport and asked them to send it on to me in the u.k….they said no problem….just recieved a letter from parcelforce saying i have to pay £12.90 vat and £8.00 clearance fee for them to deliver it. hows that work, how am i paying vat on something i already own?
please advice?? (someone)
Hello World
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12100 posts since 7/3/05

17 Sep 2009 11:45
Noble Locks wrote: anyway having this, i left an old jacket in the hotel room when i left the states last week, rang them from the airport and asked them to send it on to me in the u.k….they said no problem….just recieved a letter from parcelforce saying i have to pay £12.90 vat and £8.00 clearance fee for them to deliver it. hows that work, how am i paying vat on something i already own?
please advice?? (someone)

you have to prove you already own it, this is customs remember no loop holes can be possible!
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

17 Sep 2009 11:56
how would i go about that?
its such a load of bollocks, and i want to make a stand against this one this time…but they only gove you an automated number to call on, so how do i type on my fone keyboard 'its my jacket i bought form england that i left in the room you cunts'.
Hello World
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12100 posts since 7/3/05

17 Sep 2009 12:12
ok well this is "similar" to bringing personal belongings in from abroad

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageLibrary_Forms&id;=HMCE_CL_000308&propertyType;=document

or customs form C3

on C3 you have a number you can ring, maybe thats better? say you need help with a C3 then explain the situation and see what happens

thats all i can suggest at this stage.