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FrIEND
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13434 posts since 27/11/03

21 Dec 2007 16:11
Laughing out loud that is proper
Larry
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1980 posts since 9/9/03

21 Dec 2007 17:18
Yeah, green just makes me think of hippies.
nick
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19733 posts since 2/5/03

21 Dec 2007 17:24
Travelling by bike is difficult in Sheffield, everywhere seems to be uphill from wherever you happen to be.
andydavidleeroth
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1691 posts since 30/11/03

21 Dec 2007 17:24
many old (cheap) steel racers are amazingly well built, and quick.


dont get caught up in the high prices lightweight gimmick.
lightweight bikes only accelerate quicker. the downside of this is that they decelerate quicker too. they are essentially a big waste of money for most people.
they are only useful if you are planning to do a lot of hill climbing (where you are accelerating against gravity).


having said all this…i do love bianchi racers.

best tip i can give you is that the fit of the bike should be your priority, especially for racing bikes.
they are the most efficient machine known to man, but only if they fit you properly.
biomechanics is almost everything
Trystero
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1619 posts since 1/8/07

21 Dec 2007 17:31
docdoom wrote: Oh ok…yeah it seems pretty pointless not having brakes.

I don't know about fixies, but I rode BMX brakeless for a number of years and it really helped me to progress.

It took a bit of getting used to, and it was hard to re-learn certain tricks without brakes, but it definitely improved my overall bike control in the long run. Imo you learn faster this way, whatever bike you're riding, because it forces you to rely on things like balance points, weight distribution, smoothness and flow, rather than just brake modulation. I also love the simplicity of it, how clean the bike looks without brakes, and the fact that riding feels that bit more autonomous, since you're dependent on yourself rather than on a lever.

It did have its downsides though. Skateparks could be a nightmare, especially if it was a crowded session, and riding new trails could also be scary because you basically had no choice but to fully commit yourself to getting through each section. I still think that for general street riding, and small tech stuff, riding brakeless is the way go though. It just feels and looks so much better.

That said, I think it's mad to ride any bike brakeless if you're just going to be commuting on busy roads all the time. I was watching a video on youtube recently of some NY couriers racing each other through rush hour traffic and I think some of them were brakeless. It was a cool vid, but it's no wonder they all have such a short life expectancy if they're regularly doing stuff like that.

Protege Moi wrote: I used to do competetive Downhill mountain bike racing in my teens, early twenties but gave it up after an accident put me outa action for a while and i couldn't get my fitness back to the level needed. Would love to get back into it but don't think i'd have the nerve anymore.

Yeah, one of the main reasons I stopped riding BMX seriously was that I basically got fed up with the injuries. It really takes it's toll when you're trying to push yourself all the time. I also had a couple of bad crashes that knocked my confidence and made me think more carefully about the kinds of risks that I was taking.

I got into mountain biking for a while, but didn't really enjoy it as much. Never really felt comfortable with the bigger wheels, suspension and gearing. Spent a small fortune on building the bike though so I couldn't bring myself to sell it with today's ebay market. The expense is another reason I prefer BMX to MTB: the Hope discs and hubs on my mountain bike alone cost more than my entire BMX did Laughing out loud
morning mist
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3136 posts since 29/5/05

21 Dec 2007 18:19
pand wrote: Ever since I worked with someone who got knocked off her bike by a lorry and spent weeks in hospital with a broken pelvis in 4 places, I've never felt like taking it up as a way of transport. Plus nowhere to store it.

Brakeless racing bikes suck big balls.

I have a gut feeling cars is more dangerous.

anyone have any statistics?
Analogue
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371 posts since 3/11/07

21 Dec 2007 20:50
I used be down at the dirt jumps every weekend without a doubt for about a year, I don't know why but all of a sudden I lost interest, plus the chavs started using the jumps as a local orgy ground.

I'm looking to buy a bmx though, £250-300, not hi-jacking your thread or anything, but any advice?
once I start driving I can cart the bmx into Leicester and ride there.
seenmy
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6527 posts since 17/6/06

21 Dec 2007 21:02
used to get to ride about 60-70 miles a week now im lucky to get 4 miles a week in whch is annoying got brand new wheelset sat next to me crying out to be used but till i move to london in my own place my poor old bikes just sitting in my prents garage,looking forward to getting riding again really would like to get back on and fit again to do london to brighton in summer.
schtoop
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12970 posts since 9/4/07

21 Dec 2007 21:43
I bike 4 miles a day which is the only real exercise i get and its a chore with a mountain bike, im such a little bastard biking to college, always clipping cars or cutting them up, its nice in the summer but hate it in the winter since i have to avoid puddles like the fucking plague.

biking can also rape your shoes.
Hello World
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12100 posts since 7/3/05

14 May 2008 23:07
OK, I want a new bike for fitness and riding on the roads around where I live. This will primarily be riding by the river in kingston and in richmond park. Not interested in racing or off roading or mountain biking.

Do I go for a proper road bike or one of these urban mountain bike triangle frame types with slick tires (example cannondale bad boy)? I have plenty of riding experience with clip on shoes etc.

Budget is £1000 max. prefer second hand. just point me to decent bike forums or magazines and i'll go from there.
james007
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143 posts since 30/6/06

15 May 2008 08:03
This is probably the best forum, they answer questions quickly and have some good product reviews..

www.bikeradar.com

Has sections relating to all genres of cycling and goes from beginner to pro..


For what it is worth, I would go for a proper road bike, if you are serious then you will only want to upgrade to one soon. For £1k you could get a full carbon machine with decent kit. There would be:

1) Je James Cycles have a Giant TCR 3 Carbon for half Price at £724, excellent bike.
http://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/id32638.html

The also have other 07/08 bikes at half price.

2) Wiggle have a focus Cayo carbon at £1k
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?Cat=cycle&ProdID;=5360032366&N;=Focus%20Cayo%202008

3) Planet X SL from Planet X Bikes
http://www.planet-x-bikes.com/triathlon/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE;_user_op=view_page&PAGE;_id=335

4) Terry Dolan Mythos Carbon (in the road bikes section)
http://www.bikes-dolan.uk.com/

Avoid ebay or second hand at the moment as with the Tour coming up bikes are going for silly money as it seems to be most peoples first port of call.

Whatever you decide to do, make sure it fits you, they will tell you that and let you test ride in most bike shops. PM me if you need any more help or if you need to know any decent local bike shops where you live.
guffer
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8474 posts since 28/5/04

15 May 2008 08:47
that giant is lovely. not really a 'riding round the park' bike though. i would just get some sort of hybrid DDD
james007
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143 posts since 30/6/06

15 May 2008 08:56
Richmond Park has a great road circuit.
Charles Winthorpe III
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5474 posts since 29/7/05

15 May 2008 09:06
just about to buy a new bike myself.
i'm 90% sure i'm going for the cotic soda - custom built from brixton cycles for about 1k.
although i'll be using it predominantly in cities.. with mimimal off road use. but, i've always rode my bikes like i'm on a bmx and kinda throw them about, jumping shit and what not so i dont think a road or hybrid would suit me.

i'm not really sure if this is ideal? any tips james?

http://www.cotic.co.uk/product/soda
http://www.brixtoncycles.co.uk/mountain_cotic.html
james007
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143 posts since 30/6/06

15 May 2008 09:16
Looks like a great bike and you have a good idea of what you are looking for/using it for, so it's better. I would still advise trying a few out before buying. Brixton should be OK to let you have a test ride. I you are predominatly riding on reads I would suggest a road bike, however, if you intend to go off road then do not buy a road bike as they are just not up to the job.
frank101
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218 posts since 10/9/07

15 May 2008 09:18
I bike about 20 miles a day,
from work in the city center (amsterdam) to a suburb.
Recon its a great way to get daily exercise!

My bike aint fixed, looks like a fixed tho..
I can brake backwards, what do you guys call that?
Fixed is so dangerous here, places are too crowded and people dont always pay attention *ughm* damn tourists.
Building my second bike atm, so my litle brother got one too.
Vladimir Smicer
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657 posts since 13/5/08

15 May 2008 14:26
brant who runs on-one / planet-x designer used to have a tool that searched web forums looking for keywords
andydavidleeroth
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1691 posts since 30/11/03

15 May 2008 14:35
james007 wrote: This is probably the best forum, they answer questions quickly and have some good product reviews..

www.bikeradar.com

Has sections relating to all genres of cycling and goes from beginner to pro..


For what it is worth, I would go for a proper road bike, if you are serious then you will only want to upgrade to one soon. For £1k you could get a full carbon machine with decent kit. There would be:

1) Je James Cycles have a Giant TCR 3 Carbon for half Price at £724, excellent bike.
http://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/id32638.html

The also have other 07/08 bikes at half price.

2) Wiggle have a focus Cayo carbon at £1k
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?Cat=cycle&ProdID;=5360032366&N;=Focus%20Cayo%202008

3) Planet X SL from Planet X Bikes
http://www.planet-x-bikes.com/triathlon/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE;_user_op=view_page&PAGE;_id=335

4) Terry Dolan Mythos Carbon (in the road bikes section)
http://www.bikes-dolan.uk.com/

Avoid ebay or second hand at the moment as with the Tour coming up bikes are going for silly money as it seems to be most peoples first port of call.

Whatever you decide to do, make sure it fits you, they will tell you that and let you test ride in most bike shops. PM me if you need any more help or if you need to know any decent local bike shops where you live.

surely only a pro would want a carbon bike. their lifespans are very limited. a tiny crack or fracture in a carbon frame, and you are completely fucked.

a decent steel frame is still the most practicle for most. aluminium is very stiff (harsh/uncomfortable), and looks gay.
Vladimir Smicer
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657 posts since 13/5/08

15 May 2008 14:43
carbons better than it used to be………..
james007
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143 posts since 30/6/06

15 May 2008 14:52
Vladimir Smicer wrote: carbons better than it used to be………..

seconded.