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MrW
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2584 posts since 1/8/11

10 Feb 2019 19:26
swede wrote: basso is lovely Cool

+1

Giant looks great swede Cool
shields88
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408 posts since 25/5/11

10 Feb 2019 20:30
illwill wrote: Rose/Ribble/Planet X work on a similar business model to Canyon and will offer unbeatable vfm if you're not that bothered about branding or the intricacies of carbon fibre manufacturing.

had a quick look and they come in at roughly the same price point as Canyons but they don't look as good imo.
I have disc brakes now and prefer them over my old rim brakes, and don't need di2 but had a shot of a mates bike and loved in. I definitely don't need the upgrade but definitely want it.
swede
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8230 posts since 21/3/09

10 Feb 2019 22:46
also google canyon customer service. extremely poor at times, you can be left waiting for months. don’t sell a previous bike until the canyon has arrived
roophees
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1578 posts since 18/12/10

11 Feb 2019 14:17
I've my eye on a new road/touring bike (old Giant road bike was nicked), and always wanted a Condor Fratello. Anything else I should consider in the £1.5K mark? Have considered a Genesis Equilibrium, but thought if I'm going down that route, might as well get the Condor.

Would appreciate any suggestions for an aluminium roadie, or a steel tourer -not that sold on Carbon at the £1.5k mark.
swede
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8230 posts since 21/3/09

11 Feb 2019 14:33
how tourey do you actually want it, what are your needs? agree with you, if you are only spending £1.5 it is best to stick to alu/steel, making sure you have a decent brand and groupset
roophees
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1578 posts since 18/12/10

11 Feb 2019 14:52
Swede, gonna be using it for leisure and not commuting - think long weekend rides to Brighton (From London), and shorter ones around Richmond Park/to Windsor. Like the idea of a tourer as it fits the 'one bike does it all' (especially with the Fratello) kind of thing.

Think someone had a Cannondale CAAD10 or CAAD12 on here, liked the look of that. Am also close to Pearsons Bike Shop in Sheen, so wondering whether I should try out one of their pure road bikes.

swede
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8230 posts since 21/3/09

11 Feb 2019 15:03
i had a caad10 - great bikes. but it is not tourey in the slightest, it is a thoroughbred road bike with very racey/aggressive geometry. i wouldn't want to tour on one with baggage etc.

but from what it sounds like, you do actually want more of a road bike than a touring bike? touring bikes have wider tyres and will be slower, but more practical for luggage etc
roophees
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1578 posts since 18/12/10

11 Feb 2019 15:09
I essentially won't have luggage on it ever, and me wanting a touring bike is more for the fact i could put it through longer rides in the summer, but also it'd be happy getting muddy and fucked in the winter (with mudguards attached etc).

Also would be a nice change from the long list of (shitty) road bikes i've had in the past.
swede
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8230 posts since 21/3/09

posted 11 Feb 2019 15:52, edited 11 Feb 2019 15:52
sounds like an equilibrium would fit the bill nicely imo. I would go and check out some bikes instore though and get a feel for what you are after.. something (modern) steel with mudguard eyelets sounds right up your street

in an ideal world you would just get a ritchey road logic (no eyelets and can't be bought complete brand new, but real sexy);


roophees
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1578 posts since 18/12/10

11 Feb 2019 16:07
That Ritchey looks insane. Am a sucker for thin frames…

Any reason why you'd choose the Equilibrium over the Fratello?
swede
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8230 posts since 21/3/09

11 Feb 2019 16:13
to me, in recent years, genesis have become a bit cooler than condor. i do like condor though. I'd have to look at the specs an pricepoints in detail to decide on a proper argument for either. could you link them?
roophees
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1578 posts since 18/12/10

posted 11 Feb 2019 16:22, edited 11 Feb 2019 16:22
This would be the Genesis:
https://www.cyclerepublic.com/genesis-equilibrium-105-mens-road-bike-2019.html

I got a quote for a Fratello coming in at around £1.6k, no disc brakes:

Fratello
Full 105 Groupset
Condor Pioggia brakes
Condor finishing for handlebars, stems grips
Mavic Aksiums
Continental Contact Tyres (700x28 )
SKS Chromoplastic guards
roophees
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1578 posts since 18/12/10

posted 11 Feb 2019 16:22, edited 11 Feb 2019 16:22
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swede
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8230 posts since 21/3/09

11 Feb 2019 16:40
not much in it tbh. fratello is a bit more commutery… both nice!
doug.
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1663 posts since 12/6/10

11 Feb 2019 16:42
have you considered a Genesis Croix de Fer? 2018 model can be found for 1.5k with 105 and hydro discs, which are perhaps more suited to muddy-ish rides et al.

Also has the clearance to run cross tyres for going off the beaten path a bit, but then you could switch to 25c road tyres in summer.
roophees
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1578 posts since 18/12/10

posted 11 Feb 2019 16:45, edited 11 Feb 2019 16:45
Cool - @Swede thanks for your help mate!

No I haven't Doug, hadn't given the world of Cyclocross any thought but that is a good shout.
Jaymo85
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198 posts since 28/3/13

11 Feb 2019 17:13
Pinnacle Arkose is raved about and might be of interest also
Trumps
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626 posts since 7/9/09

12 Feb 2019 10:49
I’ve got the Croix de fer, can recommend. Other 105 spec steel bikes I was looking at were by Ribble and Kona. The Genesis geometry suited me better.

swede
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8230 posts since 21/3/09

12 Feb 2019 10:52
Jaymo85 wrote: Pinnacle Arkose is raved about and might be of interest also

although great bikes, this and the CDF are adventure* bikes. much more geared towards carrying luggage and/or commuting. from what I understand roophees is after a robust road bike which can still get some good miles in at a decent pace

*term coined by marketing types in the cycling industry
roophees
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1578 posts since 18/12/10

12 Feb 2019 11:34
Yeah thats pretty bang on what I'm looking for. CDF looks great, as does the Arkrose.

Currently considering checking out the Fairlight Faran, or the Genesis Equilibrium, the 2018 one which will save me c. £500, or could splash out for a disc.