General Discussion: Cycling


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roophees
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1580 posts since 18/12/10

27 Feb 2019 09:52
Incredible bike Jesus. How much did the total build cost if you don't mind me asking?

I've booked myself in for a Condor bike fitting in the next couple of weeks with the aim of purchasing a Fratello or the Accacio (the alu roadie). However, seriously tempted to find a Fairlight Strael, but seems hard to find a stockist in London. Overall, I work 20 mins walk from Condor and I love the fact its a genuine London LBS (although huge), and the staff whenever i've called up are pretty cool.

Would you consider the below over a £1.6k Condor new?

https://www.gumtree.com/p/bicycles/fairlight-strael-2.0-steel-road-bike/1330877878
sodomgomorra
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1364 posts since 24/3/14

posted 27 Feb 2019 10:23, edited 27 Feb 2019 10:23
Jesus wrote: drilled the frame out

You are a brave man
frank101
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223 posts since 10/9/07

27 Feb 2019 11:03
@jesus - if you mean the actual routing, next time use a wire and a vacuum then lead through after. Or you have those magnetic thingies (can't remember who makes them, Jagwire maybe).

I've boiled down from 10 bikes (mostly half working) down to two, this all-road below and a custom city bike. Still 'need' some 700c wheels for it. Has Ritchey Break-Aways for travels Smiling

swede
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8231 posts since 21/3/09

27 Feb 2019 11:39
real bling build Jesus. buying into the ceramicspeed marketing Cool
Jesus
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5973 posts since 7/10/08

27 Feb 2019 12:32
Was cheap, know its bollocks

I did use the park kit but the rear mech to bb shell internally was difficult
swiftus
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869 posts since 1/7/09

27 Feb 2019 13:34
frank101 wrote: @jesus - if you mean the actual routing, next time use a wire and a vacuum then lead through after. Or you have those magnetic thingies (can't remember who makes them, Jagwire maybe).

I've boiled down from 10 bikes (mostly half working) down to two, this all-road below and a custom city bike. Still 'need' some 700c wheels for it. Has Ritchey Break-Aways for travels Smiling


What's the reason for two top tubes? Extra strength, or a nod to days gone past? Always wanted to know.
illwill
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3766 posts since 17/5/04

27 Feb 2019 13:35
I thought it was a frame pump
MrW
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2584 posts since 1/8/11

27 Feb 2019 13:36
Jesus wrote: Was cheap, know its bollocks

Laughing out loud
swede
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8231 posts since 21/3/09

27 Feb 2019 15:58
its a frame pump swiftus. trendy
Doogan
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575 posts since 13/4/14

27 Feb 2019 18:23
Curious to know how many miles my fellow FUKers get through on these super bikes.

I have a very short commute (4km) to work which I ride 3/4 times a week and then try to get out once over a weekend. These rides are currently only at around 50km with my longest effort being 78km.

I'm really keen to improve my stamina. Sadly, I've no cycling buddies, so thinking about joining a local club which seems pretty friendly and non elitest.
Jesus
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5973 posts since 7/10/08

27 Feb 2019 18:29
Doogan wrote: Curious to know how many miles my fellow FUKers get through on these super bikes.

don't commute anymore, its a rural 29 mile ride to work, and i do 7am-8pm shifts, tend to get a headwind home, which isn't great, i did a 200 mile/5000m of climbing ride on mine last year, amongst other local stuff, most prolific year was 2014, did 11,000km that year, last 6 months has mostly been Zwift races, 2/3 a week related stuff, due to family commitments, come September though, the kids will all be school/full time nursery age so will hopefully get out a lot more than the last 12 months
illwill
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3766 posts since 17/5/04

27 Feb 2019 21:36
Options on the Cinelli Tutto?


C2W coming up and I feel to cop. Will probably go for the frame and build it up with a Gates belt drive, XTR v-brakes, Miche wheels and Deda cockpit.

I feel like it's probably expensive for what it is but I haven't found any alternative steel frames that will take big tyres. Any ideas?

Been using a Dutch-style bike for commuting/town use which is hugely practical (front basket, dynamo hub lights, alfine hub gearing) but weighs a fucking ton so it's no fun to ride and I've found myself choosing to drive for some journeys where I would have usually cycled.
sodomgomorra
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1364 posts since 24/3/14

27 Feb 2019 21:53
Omafiets


Cool
swede
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8231 posts since 21/3/09

27 Feb 2019 23:41
surly steamroller can fit big tyres. is a bit lamer than the cinelli, which I think are pretty cool frames. the mash ones are even better
Jaymo85
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198 posts since 28/3/13

28 Feb 2019 07:34
Brother Cycles All Day is an option, but as Swede said it doesn’t come with the cool points of a cinelli.
illwill
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3766 posts since 17/5/04

28 Feb 2019 09:09
Not bothered about cool points at this stage. The All Day might actually be a contender. The understated looks will make it much less nickable and it has mudguard mounts which are kinda important on a commuter bike.

There are options for fitting mudguards to the Tutto but it's a bit of a crapshoot with clearances etc and clip-on guards tend to be a bit shit.

The deal-breaker might be the porteur rack mounts on the Cinelli. It's my one concession to hipness as I've found it incredibly useful on my current bike. Perfect for picking up parcels from the depot. A rear rack is probably just as useful and definitely better from a weight-distribution perspective but I kinda like the look of a front rack.

The ability to fit a belt drive on the Tutto is also a bonus on a commuter bike as you wouldn't need to roll your trouser leg up.

I guess this all hinges on how well I can get some mudguards on the Tutto. Can't find any info about it though.
swede
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8231 posts since 21/3/09

28 Feb 2019 09:09
I like those brother frames. the company itself is cool too, owners are nice guys. all city macho man is another option that takes big tyres and the genesis day one

actually quite a few out there.. the geo of the cinelli is a bit more racey though
swede
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8231 posts since 21/3/09

28 Feb 2019 09:11
genesis has porteur mounts. i agree with you, porteur racks are great. used to use a lot in bristol when I didn't have a car
swiftus
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869 posts since 1/7/09

28 Feb 2019 09:34
swede wrote: its a frame pump swiftus. trendy

Ah, that's prob why I didn't know what it was Laughing out loud

Still carrying a mini pump in my back pocket like a pikey
illwill
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3766 posts since 17/5/04

28 Feb 2019 09:51
The size of tyres these days - you'd be there all day with a mini pump.