9 Apr 2013 00:07
Jingoistic praise all over the shop for the most controversial figure in that era of politics, bringing out of the rhetoric that we need a 'strong leader' again blah blah Tory excuse to further fuck with the welfare state etc.
9 Apr 2013 01:43
I shouldn't have responded to your Adams comment as this could go on for days.
I spent a sizeable portion of my youth living in the Ardoyne and played for Crumlin Star if you know them; I know the area, the politics and the people well.
I don't think there should be any British involvement in (Northern) Ireland, or actually I couldn't give a fuck, whatever's best economically. I haven't justified their actions either, I wouldn't necessarily disagree about there being examples of British terrorism.
You justify the IRA being terrorists by saying "aren't the British terrorists too" though. Isn't that some kind of backwards logic? Killing innocents is never cool, no?
The IRA are terrorists, the UDA and the rest are terrorists. Terrorist scum who have brought so much hurt to that country.
Lets leave it at that though, "you can never win an argument because even when you win, you lose" and all that.
Ciaran
883 posts since 18/4/10
9 Apr 2013 03:24
full scale riots in bristol
edit:pics to follow
manula
1259 posts since 11/9/11
9 Apr 2013 09:53
Every move she made was charged by negativity; she destroyed the British manufacturing industry, she hated the miners, she hated the arts, she hated the Irish Freedom Fighters and allowed them to die, she hated the English poor and did nothing at all to help them, she hated Greenpeace and environmental protectionists, she was the only European political leader who opposed a ban on the ivory trade, she had no wit and no warmth and even her own cabinet booted her out. She gave the order to blow up The Belgrano even though it was outside of the Malvinas Exclusion Zone—and was sailing AWAY from the islands! When the young Argentinean boys aboard The Belgrano had suffered a most appalling and unjust death, Thatcher gave the thumbs-up sign for the British press.
Iron? No. Barbaric? Yes. She hated feminists even though it was largely due to the progression of the women’s movement that the British people allowed themselves to accept that a prime minister could actually be female. But because of Thatcher, there will never again be another woman in power in British politics, and rather than opening that particular door for other women, she closed it.
Thatcher will only be fondly remembered by sentimentalists who did not suffer under her leadership, but the majority of British working people have forgotten her already, and the people of Argentina will be celebrating her death. As a matter of recorded fact, Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity.
MORRISSEY.
April 9, 2013
9 Apr 2013 10:07
@ taking lives I don't wanna de rail this thread. Take it to the politics thread! The fact that you lived here makes it even worse! I just assumed you were speaking out of ignorance!
robii
18857 posts since 8/9/06
9 Apr 2013 10:58
Read the Guardian article on the previous page. Poor Jimmy Saville can't defend himself and we weren't too fussed about his family. All this "don't speak ill of the dead" stuff is nonsense when it comes to public figures.
9 Apr 2013 10:58
Like any Politician or politics their are good and bad things - I think we are losing perspective that someone has died, respect has gone out the window.
Politics is dangerous but perspective is reality - she fucked my family up but I still respect the fact that she has died.
Bit of a bandwagon if you ask me all this crap, especially all these people that read an obituary or newspaper article and think they fucking know it all
edit - last bit not aimed at anyone btw
robii
18857 posts since 8/9/06
9 Apr 2013 11:16
That's the harsh truth, Rez
Mr X
7034 posts since 12/7/07
9 Apr 2013 11:18
£8,000,000 state funeral. OUTRAGEOUS.
robii
18857 posts since 8/9/06
9 Apr 2013 11:29
That's nothing compared to the billions she put into the British economy etc…
9 Apr 2013 12:10
Am i the only one that feels fairly indifferent about it? I agree with the Guardian article about not censoring negative comment purely on the basis that someone has died however some of the petty name calling is ridiculous.
love Brixton
