Rez
8945 posts since 5/4/09
14 Mar 2014 14:54
In this day and age, being able to afford to do a degree/take on that debt is essentially being middle class.
Pay isn't as much of an issue in teaching as prestige is. It's a cultural thing.
Nobody is ever thinking 'wow I'd really want to be a teacher if only they could match my wage'.
But a load of bright people never enter the profession because teachers are shat on by the papers, parents, middle class expectations, and a load of shit assumptions about the people that enter teaching.
14 Mar 2014 15:02
Still wouldn't agree with that, class is as much about where you come from and your associated beliefs and values as it is about your financial position.
14 Mar 2014 15:28
Class =/= money in this country. It is money in the USA.
Kieran
516 posts since 26/2/13
14 Mar 2014 15:50
The loan system is stupid now, the goverment are lending out loans that people like teachers won't actually pay back someone on 25k a year over the 30 year pay back period will pay back just shy of 11k of their 30k-35k loan.
EVERS
8580 posts since 2/7/06
14 Mar 2014 16:22
plenty middle class nurses and class has nowt to do with income, although it is a factor.
working class buy nice cars and holidays with spare cash. middle class wear rags, drive an ancient volvo and kill themselves to send kids to a good school.
Mr.X.
3183 posts since 23/6/13
posted 14 Mar 2014 19:26, edited 14 Mar 2014 19:26
Bit of a generalisation?
My generalisation is if you're mega poor you don't vote, if you're uneducated you don't vote and if you're neither of those but lazy you don't vote. Hippy types vote lib dem, older disgruntled people from poorer backgrounds and actual working classes… those union types vote labour. Middle classes and rich conservative.
14 Mar 2014 19:30
It's great that young adults from an average/low income family can universally go to a university, and do a degree.
I reckon you need to have comfortable parents to get what most on here got from uni, eg move to another city and live in halls rather than with parents, go out and not have a job while studying etc.
Anyway, Tony Benn RIP. Have to admire someone of privilege who generally stuck to his principles of supporting the less fortunate.
14 Mar 2014 21:33
I would guess for many working wasnt the difference between going to uni and not, or 'surviving' or not but about doing 15hrs a week for more clothes/drink/socialising money.
14 Mar 2014 23:52
Not really, your loan covers your rent pretty much, then 20 hours a week retail is your living money. Knew plenty of people like that, none from round these parts funnily enough, and plenty more people from the southeast who just lived off handouts from mummy and daddy.
17 Mar 2014 17:27
Yeah i put this in random news earlier, cos i didn't class her as a celeb to be honest.
17 Mar 2014 17:33
How so? She was a succesful model and a designer in her own right even before started dating Jagger.
She definitely wasn't a Z lister out of respect.
17 Mar 2014 17:50
Ive never heard of her other than jaggers bird, thats why i thought it. You obviously know youre celebs better than me,
