General Discussion: Everyones a fucking DJ!


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MrW
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2797 posts since 1/8/11

27 Nov 2012 23:33
Have a look at Serato. Keep your 1210s, use Serato rip your vinyl to electronic then store / sell it, then use it to play your mp3s, wavs etc on your 1210s. You can record you mixes straight to wav or aif so no need for minidisc.

I was the same, been buying vinyl for 25+ years, said I'd never play anything else. Still don't, only 2 of my 12"s allow me to control 300gb of mp3s. DJ-wise (other than my 1210s) it's the best best purchase I've made.

A couple of friends have got Traktor S4 and use that with 1210s, not tried it but heard it's pretty good.

Trent
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1996 posts since 18/1/09

28 Nov 2012 00:27
Thanks. So what's the latest Serato? Does it operate the same as Traktor? I wouldn't stop buying vinyl, just less of it and records that I would play out I'd stick to. Cool
MrW
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2797 posts since 1/8/11

28 Nov 2012 01:17
Don't really need the latest version of Serato, the 1st edition does all you want, later versions have more functionality. Not used Traktor but think the concept's the same - use timecoded vinyl to control mp3s on a laptop.

I still buy vinyl, just rip a copy as soon as I get it and mostly use that & save the vinyl for special occasions Eye-wink

phikz
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3137 posts since 14/4/09

16 Dec 2012 18:25
I'm looking on getting a single vinyl deck with usb just for ripping and playing tunes really. Nick recommended me a Stanton t-80 but looking for a general consensus so does anybody have any other suggestions for a decent player for around £150-200 mark.

Edit: My mate's just offered me a Stanton t62 and a numark tt-200 for £80? Worth just grabbing them?
james_fox
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541 posts since 1/8/10

16 Dec 2012 20:30
this is what i use, it's discontinued now so you might be able to get one cheap from richer sounds or something:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Ject-Debut-III-Phono-Turntable/dp/B000VVW92K

the converters are very high quality so vinyl rips sounds great, but it's belt drive so ideally you would record into ableton and warp the file so its tight enough to mix with (assuming that's what you'll be doing).
phikz
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3137 posts since 14/4/09

16 Dec 2012 21:45
Nah not for mixing, want to start building a collection of my favourite tunes on vinyl, especially grime and garage. Also kind of inherited a few boxes of my mom's old records. Eventually, want to start learning music production and want to chop up obscure vinyl and sample etc. Looks smart that though, read a few reviews and seems decent.

What do you think to what I was offered by my friend though? Seems like a sweet deal to me although I'm wondering if it's worth it to get a proper decent piece of kit for the long run if I'm gonna want to upgrade as I get more into things.
carl lewis
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23958 posts since 14/10/04

16 Dec 2012 21:56
Go technics 1210s if you can
phikz
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3137 posts since 14/4/09

16 Dec 2012 22:08
Couple people have recomended those technics now actually
Charles Winthorpe III
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5474 posts since 29/7/05

16 Dec 2012 22:14
Bare in mind for some 1210's or any phono turntables you will need a pre amp and a decent sound card to record in to a computer.

That's a good deal for those turntables.. Not a patch on some technics though tbh.

Turntable into pre amp then into sound card is the audio to digital flow.
If you get some technics and a pre amp (no need to spend more than 80 for one) then that will be a staple for any set up for years to come.

That project turntable has a built in pre amp so literally plug and play and you're good to go.
carl lewis
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23958 posts since 14/10/04

16 Dec 2012 22:14
1210 very stable unlike the belt drives
james_fox
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541 posts since 1/8/10

16 Dec 2012 22:27
stanton and numark kit is OK-ish quality but i'd say always get the best gear you can afford, as like you say if you get into it you'll only want to upgrade down the line. the recordings would sound alright but nowhere near as good as the project.

the project is quite delicate though and can occasionally be a bit skippy as it's not really meant for playing records that are cut loud for club play.

1210s are obviously the best for mixing but not necessarily for ripping vinyl as the tonearm & cart etc are designed to be stable in a loud club, not to sound super crisp and clear.

edit: although tbh the difference isn't huge and my ears are too battered to tell anyway - i just like the convenience of the USB output
Baobinga
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203 posts since 1/8/12

16 Dec 2012 22:34
Why would you want 1210s for non-mixing?

If you want a nice turntable for listening do some research and then look on avforums classifieds and similar, loads of bargains turn up. I'd go for something like a secondhand rega p3 (although might be a bit expensive for you, but can probably pick up one in good con for as little as £120 with a bit of searching)

As said, if you get a normal turntable you'll need a phono pre-amp (or an integrated amp with built in phono, recently bought an arcam a85 with phono again of avforums for cheap and it's a beaut).

With hi-fi stuff, best to buy vintage and spend a decent amount, it will last for years and will hold value well if kept nicely.
carl lewis
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23958 posts since 14/10/04

16 Dec 2012 22:40
He can always sell on the 1210 and still get good money. Parts widely available and if he wants to mix can also cop a second one.
Baobinga
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203 posts since 1/8/12

16 Dec 2012 22:57
Yeah but they sound shit Laughing out loud
carl lewis
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23958 posts since 14/10/04

16 Dec 2012 23:07
Depends on your needles and quality of the vinyl (dust, scratches etc) if he gets a mixer he can always eq the sound.

He wants old skool garage so the sound not being 100% is part of it.

If you want that new house minmal tech etc no need to buy vinyl as it all on mp3 nice and clean sounding.

Dont get me wrong he can be a geek and get a better deck, but 1000s of producers have used 1210s maybe even worse to sample and done well.
Baobinga
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203 posts since 1/8/12

16 Dec 2012 23:09
fair, I suppose it's a question of whether he actually wants it to listen to music with or solely to use for sampling, in which case I'd probably just use something like the project for the sake of simplicity.
carl lewis
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23958 posts since 14/10/04

16 Dec 2012 23:17
Depends on the sounds he wants to to build really and his studio set up.
phikz
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3137 posts since 14/4/09

17 Dec 2012 22:10
Cheers for all that guys, will take a little look at that rega p3 and a do a bit more research on the 1210's and project, had the same response from quite a few people about the 1210's but I think people are assuming I want them to mix with. Dunno about 'studio' carl Laughing out loud Basically I just want a single deck literally for listening and ripping. And any sampling I do will just be personal, experimental novice stuff.

The convenience of having USB output is what I was really looking for so I dunno if it's worth me fucking around with all this extra kit just yet. As I get more and more into things I probably will want to upgrade, but I can't see that happening in the space of a few months so don't think I should be in too much of a hurry to purchase anything like the 1210's.
carl lewis
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23958 posts since 14/10/04

17 Dec 2012 22:20
Check ebay might be able to get one deck for a good p.

Aba Shanti uses the one deck Cool sometime has 2-3 vinyl on top of each other Sticking out tongue

Phikz your build your studio bit by bit may take 5 years though, but you looking to a student producer which is a good route to go down.
phikz
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3137 posts since 14/4/09

17 Dec 2012 22:50
Shanti Cool True, I hear that, this is baby steps right now though, can always start the proper build a bit further down the line I reckon.

Just come across this, this the exact same as yours James? Not much of a description.. http://www.richersounds.com/showclearanceproduct/PROJ-DEBUT3-BLK/Project+Debut+3+Black.html

P.S James Fox as in New Jack Swing James Fox?