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Dreep
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1481 posts since 29/7/08

9 Jun 2020 08:37
i can't do other things if im detoxing which is mainly what i'm worried about.
that, and the fact i'm going to have to sell half my clothes to afford a nice place to get put into.
morgan
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1018 posts since 22/2/11

posted 9 Jun 2020 08:53, edited 9 Jun 2020 08:53
You can buy new clothes. Get your head right man.

Clothes are useless if you’re so fucked up your WAYWT are shit through bad judgment Eek
sodomgomorra
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1601 posts since 24/3/14

9 Jun 2020 13:34
Or pick out a good fit for in your coffin.
sodomgomorra
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1601 posts since 24/3/14

9 Jun 2020 13:34
I'd go with black.
Dreep
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1481 posts since 29/7/08

24 Jun 2020 12:11
anyone recommend some cbd oil? decided to give it a try to get rid of some of my withdrawal feelings.
Kadafi39
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1775 posts since 30/10/09

24 Jun 2020 14:00
Dreep wrote: anyone recommend some cbd oil? decided to give it a try to get rid of some of my withdrawal feelings.

CBD oil in all honesty is going to do nothing for you, it wont help with withdrawal from benzos and the calming effects are negligible.

From personal experience I have learnt the worst way to kick a habit is to replace it with another. CBD will do nothing for you and then you'll most probably look for something else, its what people do when they are addicted.

If you actually want to kick it you need to be 100% sure youre never going to touch another and then just quit cold turkey, every time you have urges remind yourself you dont want to be a slave to benzos any longer and it does nothing positive for you and if you carry on you'll end up in a box sooner than you should.

Try and work out and do other things you enjoy to occupy your time. Goodluck mate.
oldgregg
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6370 posts since 13/4/02

24 Jun 2020 15:39
I have a ton of oxycontin due to fractures, get proper laid back on 50-60mg, any point in upping or will I just fall asleep (still wanna function normally)
sodomgomorra
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1601 posts since 24/3/14

24 Jun 2020 18:45
Opiates are great. Only upside to breaking my leg tbh.

Tramadol however, not so much.
Dreep
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1481 posts since 29/7/08

24 Jun 2020 19:29
Kadafi39 wrote:
Dreep wrote: anyone recommend some cbd oil? decided to give it a try to get rid of some of my withdrawal feelings.

CBD oil in all honesty is going to do nothing for you, it wont help with withdrawal from benzos and the calming effects are negligible.

From personal experience I have learnt the worst way to kick a habit is to replace it with another. CBD will do nothing for you and then you'll most probably look for something else, its what people do when they are addicted.

If you actually want to kick it you need to be 100% sure youre never going to touch another and then just quit cold turkey, every time you have urges remind yourself you dont want to be a slave to benzos any longer and it does nothing positive for you and if you carry on you'll end up in a box sooner than you should.

Try and work out and do other things you enjoy to occupy your time. Goodluck mate.

Wish I could cold turkey but 24 days ago I accidentally went a day without benzos and ended up with my mother phoning the police because I was having some sort of breakdown then police just chucking me in an ambulance where I proceeded to have a seizure, got out of hospital and made a weird post on here because in my delerium I thought shit had kicked off on here with my gf. So cold turkey is out the window, tapering is a fucking nightmare so trying anything to relieve symptoms.
joeyjojo
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4346 posts since 24/8/06

24 Jun 2020 19:44
Jesus
EssexBoyII
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6885 posts since 5/6/07

24 Jun 2020 19:53
Why is tapering not the way to go?
bill
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4930 posts since 5/8/09

24 Jun 2020 20:12
Tried GBL over 2 nights. I'd done it before but never to this extent. Feels good but it's almost impossible to maintain a good balance, you think you've got your right dose but then the next time you take the same amount, you feel nothing. Then the next time you take less and pass out. Fell into a deep sleep multiple times, we constantly had to keep waking each other up. It's easy to understand why it's banned in all the clubs here.
oldgregg
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6370 posts since 13/4/02

24 Jun 2020 20:17
Dreep wrote:
Kadafi39 wrote:
Dreep wrote: anyone recommend some cbd oil? decided to give it a try to get rid of some of my withdrawal feelings.

CBD oil in all honesty is going to do nothing for you, it wont help with withdrawal from benzos and the calming effects are negligible.

From personal experience I have learnt the worst way to kick a habit is to replace it with another. CBD will do nothing for you and then you'll most probably look for something else, its what people do when they are addicted.

If you actually want to kick it you need to be 100% sure youre never going to touch another and then just quit cold turkey, every time you have urges remind yourself you dont want to be a slave to benzos any longer and it does nothing positive for you and if you carry on you'll end up in a box sooner than you should.

Try and work out and do other things you enjoy to occupy your time. Goodluck mate.

Wish I could cold turkey but 24 days ago I accidentally went a day without benzos and ended up with my mother phoning the police because I was having some sort of breakdown then police just chucking me in an ambulance where I proceeded to have a seizure, got out of hospital and made a weird post on here because in my delerium I thought shit had kicked off on here with my gf. So cold turkey is out the window, tapering is a fucking nightmare so trying anything to relieve symptoms.

I was on xanor for like 4 years (from my doc), pretty heavy dose in the end as you have to be extremely strong of character not to increase dose when the effects more or less vanish.

To kick it I made a schedule with my doc for three months, tons of stuff online how much you can go down every week depending on dose and time of usage.

Thing is, shit builds up under a long time so even after you have quit by the book and the major withdrawals are gone you will have to deal with tons of new worthless withdrawal stuff over the coming months. I was extemely sensetive to light, it itched like hell like all the time, sweats, sleeping is totally fucked and with that a healthy bit of paranoia.

I just drank heavily for about a year, then I was ok.

I’m a heavy drinker at times but have zero addiction tendencies with alcohol, so that worked for me. I would suggest doing weed or some other stuff with low addiction potential as a temporary substitute.

Kicking it cold turkey is of course the best but if you have been using for a while I think that will be practically hard as you would need to lock yourself up in a dark room for a month or two as you wont be able to function.
sodomgomorra
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1601 posts since 24/3/14

24 Jun 2020 20:45
Going cold turkey off Benzos is legitimately dangerous and ill advised.
figurine
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5901 posts since 14/5/07

24 Jun 2020 20:56
Taking any sort of medical advice from FUK is legitimately dangerous and ill advised.
Dreep
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1481 posts since 29/7/08

posted 24 Jun 2020 22:12, edited 24 Jun 2020 22:12
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Kadafi39
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1775 posts since 30/10/09

24 Jun 2020 23:39
Dreep wrote:
Kadafi39 wrote:
Dreep wrote: anyone recommend some cbd oil? decided to give it a try to get rid of some of my withdrawal feelings.

CBD oil in all honesty is going to do nothing for you, it wont help with withdrawal from benzos and the calming effects are negligible.

From personal experience I have learnt the worst way to kick a habit is to replace it with another. CBD will do nothing for you and then you'll most probably look for something else, its what people do when they are addicted.

If you actually want to kick it you need to be 100% sure youre never going to touch another and then just quit cold turkey, every time you have urges remind yourself you dont want to be a slave to benzos any longer and it does nothing positive for you and if you carry on you'll end up in a box sooner than you should.

Try and work out and do other things you enjoy to occupy your time. Goodluck mate.

Wish I could cold turkey but 24 days ago I accidentally went a day without benzos and ended up with my mother phoning the police because I was having some sort of breakdown then police just chucking me in an ambulance where I proceeded to have a seizure, got out of hospital and made a weird post on here because in my delerium I thought shit had kicked off on here with my gf. So cold turkey is out the window, tapering is a fucking nightmare so trying anything to relieve symptoms.

Yeah probably not going to work for you then. But tapering and just sticking with slowly cutting it off will.

Speak with your gp too should be able to refer you to something too.
hate
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1573 posts since 4/1/12

posted 25 Jun 2020 06:30, edited 25 Jun 2020 06:30
bill wrote: Tried GBL over 2 nights. I'd done it before but never to this extent. Feels good but it's almost impossible to maintain a good balance, you think you've got your right dose but then the next time you take the same amount, you feel nothing. Then the next time you take less and pass out. Fell into a deep sleep multiple times, we constantly had to keep waking each other up. It's easy to understand why it's banned in all the clubs here.
This is the worst. Try to stay away from this. Know lots of people here that became kind of zombies, sometimes short before dying. Peasant Drug. Its literally wheel rim cleaner
exactlythat
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2344 posts since 27/10/07

25 Jun 2020 10:31
do NOT go cold turkey from benzos - potentially lethal. needs an appropriate taper and switch over to longer acting agents to reduce serum concentration variability. this may only be achievable with a psychiatrist.
oldgregg
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6370 posts since 13/4/02

25 Jun 2020 11:51
Re going cold turkey om benzos, hardly lethal if you are not in really bad shape + doing insane doses for years