General Discussion: ebay & paypal queries and questions thread...post anything you need to know in hurr


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Rirawin
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9241 posts since 17/7/05

22 Feb 2008 12:37
Commander_Venus wrote: Dispute is nothing, if you escalate it to a paypal claim then paypal may freeze the funds associated with the transaction, they wont 'freeze the account'.
If you win the claim but the person had the wits to empty their account prior, paypal just wait and as soon as any money goes into their account again paypal nab it and its yours.

That's what I thought.
Best
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9780 posts since 21/10/05

23 Feb 2008 20:16
just got this email

ebay wrote: 330213179240 - Levis Vintage LVC 1947 501xx raw selvedge rrp £130


However, your listing was in breach of eBay's Circumvention of eBay Fees policy and has been removed from eBay. We notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has been canceled. We would like to take this opportunity to let you know what part of your listing is not permitted.

Your listing(s) contains the following information:

I am open to sensible Buy It Now offers - please email me!

You may not manipulate eBay's system in order to avoid paying certain eBay fees. This includes practices such as adding previously unspecified fees after the end of the auction, or charging excessive postage and packaging in order to recoup your listing and Final Value Fees.

We thank you in advance for your cooperation.



Regards,

eBay Trust & Safety

what a fucking piss take - there was just over a day left

trust and safety????? - i hope they are joking, piss taking and tax dodging more like it Evil Evil Evil

its the third time i have relisted the item - twice for keyword spamming and now for this

i really do hate them Evil
dan-tours-velos
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3544 posts since 26/8/06

23 Feb 2008 20:21
stop keyword spamming and offering to sell outside of eBay then Laughing out loud
india
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5662 posts since 31/10/05

24 Feb 2008 10:46
have they stopped you/people adding buy it nows to auctions once its started?
stoney
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17418 posts since 22/1/05

28 Feb 2008 07:49
something i sold got lost in the post, so ive told the geezer ill do him a paypal refund, i have a zero balance at the moment so it wont let me, can you transfer from your bank to paypal ?
dan-tours-velos
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3544 posts since 26/8/06

28 Feb 2008 08:13
yup takes something stupid like 10 days
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

28 Feb 2008 13:15
stonefish wrote: something i sold "got lost" in the post, so ive told the geezer ill do him a paypal refund, i have a zero balance at the moment so it wont let me, can you transfer from your bank to paypal ?
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

28 Feb 2008 13:19
Commander_Venus wrote:
Rirawin wrote: If you raise a dispute with someone, does it freeze the other persons account? Or will escalating it to a Paypal claim, get the persons account frozen?

Dispute is nothing, if you escalate it to a paypal claim then paypal may freeze the funds associated with the transaction, they wont 'freeze the account'.
If you win the claim but the person had the wits to empty their account prior, paypal just wait and as soon as any money goes into their account again paypal nab it and its yours.

Paypal will payout whether they have money in their account of not. Nobody is going to pay money into their account once they've conned you
india
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5662 posts since 31/10/05

28 Feb 2008 13:21
do you two mean it didnt make as much as you wanted so you're not sending?
should be able to do it through ebay. an it'll just reverse the payment. you'll have a minus balance for a bit.
ive have people offer to send me money back an i lose 4% an its stuck in paypal for a week. they think its okay.
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

28 Feb 2008 13:24
robii wrote:
Commander_Venus wrote:
Rirawin wrote: If you raise a dispute with someone, does it freeze the other persons account? Or will escalating it to a Paypal claim, get the persons account frozen?

Dispute is nothing, if you escalate it to a paypal claim then paypal may freeze the funds associated with the transaction, they wont 'freeze the account'.
If you win the claim but the person had the wits to empty their account prior, paypal just wait and as soon as any money goes into their account again paypal nab it and its yours.

Paypal will payout whether they have money in their account of not. Nobody is going to pay money into their account once they've conned you





Not true, paypal cant payout if there is no money in the persons account, and they sure as hell dont refund from their own pocket.

Btw I'm speaking from experience here, someone ripped me, I did a paypal claim, won it, but received no refund as the person had no funds in their account. Some months later I received the money back from paypal/that persons account, I inquired and was informed that that person had been paid money into that account again, some of which paypal returned to me.
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

28 Feb 2008 13:29
I had a claim paid out the other day. The guy was clearly a ripper (ebay feedback suggested others had the same experience, he didn't reply to my emails and he didn't dispute the claim) so there's no way he would have paid money back into the account. What would be the point of ripping people off then putting money back in your account? It'd also mean that if you paid for anything with funds from your account, rather than from your credit card where you have built in insurance, you'd have no protection against being conned whatsoever

About a month ago I had a claim paid for an item that arrived damaged. I was emailing paypal back and forth and though they paid out they said that as soon as money went in the person's account it would be held, so presumably they had nothing in their account when paypal refunded me
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

28 Feb 2008 13:36
I dont think the person who ripped me was a prefessional scammer who sells like 20 xbox 360, takes the money, then shuts down their paypal. I think it was just some chancer prick, so months later when he used the account again he either
a) Forgot
or
b) thought he got away with it because of length of time passed

Your last sentence just sounds like a bit of confusion tbh, they refunded you with money from dudes acct then sent an automatically generated email.

Trust me, paypal DO NOT have some kind of refund pot/pool. They only refund from the other person, and seeing how they cant go into your bank CC, you have to have the funds in your paypal acct.
I been on the other foot aswell, with having a claim against me and it worked exactly the same. If you empty your acct before they escalate to a claim from a dispute, they get no refund, until that is I used my account again.
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

28 Feb 2008 14:00
That was two different claims I made

The first one the seller gave a fake UPS tracking number, bad feedback from other buyers etc so he'd obviously done it to make some money then disappeared

The second person was just a twat and it was only a small amount so may have paid money back into their account

I can't accept that PayPal offers zero protection if you get conned, which is effectively what you're saying
generic_guy
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9289 posts since 16/9/02

28 Feb 2008 14:09
Depends what it says on the auction. There are definitely auctions where you'll get your money back even if the seller's account is empty, but it isn't the case for everything. Will say on the auction.
Commander_Venus
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8620 posts since 16/7/06

28 Feb 2008 14:10
What protection do paypal offer then?
joe151
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6230 posts since 21/2/07

28 Feb 2008 14:16
ebay profit growth protection
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

28 Feb 2008 14:44
generic_guy wrote: Depends what it says on the auction. There are definitely auctions where you'll get your money back even if the seller's account is empty, but it isn't the case for everything. Will say on the auction.

Whereabouts does it say?
generic_guy
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9289 posts since 16/9/02

28 Feb 2008 14:50
There will be a Paypal logo on the auction.
"When you’re shopping on eBay, look for items that are covered by PayPal Buyer Protection.

With it, you get free protection of up to £500.00 GBP on your purchases. To determine if your item is eligible, look for PayPal Buyer Protection in the Seller Information box on the View Item page. When your transaction isn’t covered by PayPal Buyer Protection, you may still be covered by our Buyer Complaint Policy."

The buyer complaint is the standard one that only gives the money if the seller still has it in their account.
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

28 Feb 2008 15:08
Ah right. Useful bit of info

The auction in question says:

PayPal. Up to $200 in buyer protection. See eligibility
flipmode
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1318 posts since 25/10/05

28 Feb 2008 15:30
does google checkout offer any buyer protection? or have i just sent my money to a random stupidly?