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Hello World
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12170 posts since 7/3/05

25 Mar 2008 20:46
I am currently renegotiating my own salary in my current job, got a week to decide on my number. Very tricky.
SOS
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6483 posts since 12/10/04

25 Mar 2008 21:00
Goldie wrote: Right, looking towards my future and thinking about training to become a plumber/electrician. Where are the best places to look for training roles/apprenticeships? Has anyone done one?

grab a yellow pages, and ring all your local plumbers.
Or better still call into their offices and sell yourself.

Dont expect alot of money though.
deuce
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14051 posts since 21/1/08

25 Mar 2008 21:14
Ok, my mates going traveling in July, going pretty much everywhere and will be gone for like 5months or so…
Anyway, I've got the opportunity to go, BUT… I'm 20 and have a fairly good job and earn quite a bit for my age (£30k), so it would feel quite retarded to leave my job in order to go traveling.
Now I do plan on traveling, just at a later date… advice welcome, I'm 90% sure I won't go, but of course I also really want to. I also have the opportunity to meet him over there in NYC to tag along.
Goldie
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4822 posts since 17/10/07

25 Mar 2008 21:16
Cheers. Yeah I aint expecting great pay, I'm working at tesco at the minute and get paid next to nothing at the minute anyway so it's no biggie. You gotta take the lows to reach the highs. Have you done anything similar SOS?
Jeeves
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285 posts since 22/12/07

25 Mar 2008 21:17
you live once, you die twice.

go man. don't think about it. your young and your at the best age to do it.

you will only regret it when your old and grey if you get stuck in a job now just because of the money. money comes and goes. life experience and memories are priceless.
Hello World
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12170 posts since 7/3/05

25 Mar 2008 21:19
JrdnNcks wrote: Ok, my mates going traveling in July, going pretty much everywhere and will be gone for like 5months or so…
Anyway, I've got the opportunity to go, BUT… I'm 20 and have a fairly good job and earn quite a bit for my age (£30k), so it would feel quite retarded to leave my job in order to go traveling.
Now I do plan on traveling, just at a later date… advice welcome, I'm 90% sure I won't go, but of course I also really want to. I also have the opportunity to meet him over there in NYC to tag along.

DDD answer: you have a good pay don't jack it in, meet him out the on holiday in NY for 2 weeks and spend your cash from your earnings like crazy.

Fun answer: traveling a bit later will never happen, do it now, life experience is better than cash.
aitch
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8923 posts since 19/8/07

25 Mar 2008 21:37
Thanks for the advice DDD, Stanleyboy and SOS.

Im going to look through reed and monster and ill definitely give them a band if asked. Im definitely going to leave the question right until the end of the interview. Im thinking though that there could be more than one interview so i'll see how it goes and report back.

Good luck with yours DDD.
staygold
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5055 posts since 21/11/05

25 Mar 2008 21:44
Goldie wrote: Right, looking towards my future and thinking about training to become a plumber/electrician. Where are the best places to look for training roles/apprenticeships? Has anyone done one?
My brother did an apprenticeship with Barratts, 3 years and he went to college 1 day a week to study for the exams. He did his in carpentry and i'm not sure if they have their own plumbers/electricians or if they hire people in but i'd try a big company like that. The bad thing abut doing it with them is that when he qualified there was no job at the end of it, they bizzarely train people but don't have their own plumbers Puzzled
andymakesglasses
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20594 posts since 26/1/06

26 Mar 2008 09:16
Hello World wrote:
JrdnNcks wrote: Ok, my mates going traveling in July, going pretty much everywhere and will be gone for like 5months or so…
Anyway, I've got the opportunity to go, BUT… I'm 20 and have a fairly good job and earn quite a bit for my age (£30k), so it would feel quite retarded to leave my job in order to go traveling.
Now I do plan on traveling, just at a later date… advice welcome, I'm 90% sure I won't go, but of course I also really want to. I also have the opportunity to meet him over there in NYC to tag along.

DDD answer: you have a good pay don't jack it in, meet him out the on holiday in NY for 2 weeks and spend your cash from your earnings like crazy.

Fun answer: traveling a bit later will never happen, do it now, life experience is better than cash.

so true

JrdnNcks what do you do? is it something you'd be able to get back into fairly easily when you came back, either with the same company or another one?

if your employers value you as an employee it could be worth asking for unpaid leave - my cousin has just done this to go and do charity work in the Seychelles (Laughing out loud) for a few months, her employers are keeping her job for her when she returns

andymakesglasses
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20594 posts since 26/1/06

26 Mar 2008 10:15
your experience, responsibilities, skills, time in current job and salary level would all be taken into consideration by a new employer - how important are formal qualifications in your field?

if you think going travelling with your mate definitely will set you back on the job front, do what Hello World suggests - take a few weeks holiday, meet up with your mate (maybe in a couple of different places), take advantage of your earning power and have a whale of a time

that I didn't go and see some more of the world before entering "the real world" after art college is probably my biggest regret
deuce
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14051 posts since 21/1/08

26 Mar 2008 10:15
I work as a contractor for BT, in the I.T side of things and system administration.
The thing is, I don't really have that many qualifications, or know what I want/wanted to do as a career. I sorta got lucky when I was in a rut and found myself in this job. I'm fully trained in my job now, but I don't have anything to prove it, i.e. certificate to say what I'm trained in. So if I did leave, and tried to get another job elsewhere doing the same thing, I wouldnt have any proof of what I'm capable of.
I'm trained in a system called "Siebel", its a well known data-base type program.
I know for a fact if I left to go traveling, I'd be back to earning about 12k again in a dead end job, not knowing what career to choose! Cry

And I know what you mean by "it'll never happen later", but im sure it will, but i guess everyone says that aswell Laughing out loud

Oh, and one other last thing, if they did take me back after the 5ish months, I'd be on a different contract anyway, and I'd only be earning around 16k.

Typing this is just convincing myself I cant leave, if in doubt - say no.
mr.white
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17101 posts since 10/7/04

26 Mar 2008 13:44
if in doubt, flip a coin.
dan-tours-velos
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3544 posts since 26/8/06

27 Mar 2008 17:23
just go, best thing i did was take a year out and fuck off to france to spend best part of a year boarding and biking,

came back, no job, relationship fell apart but overtime everything clicks back into place
SOS
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6483 posts since 12/10/04

27 Mar 2008 18:26
Goldie wrote: Cheers. Yeah I aint expecting great pay, I'm working at tesco at the minute and get paid next to nothing at the minute anyway so it's no biggie. You gotta take the lows to reach the highs. Have you done anything similar SOS?

Not me no, I occasionally help my brother a little on side jobs, he is Central heating engineer / plumber + electrician for 10+ years now. He started young, did an apprentice in about6 months i think, worked for company, then went self employed in partnership for about 2 years, got screwed over so went back the old company again. But not just as he is my bor but he is shit hot at it, does a good honest job and knows his shit. There are a lot out there that you dont want at your door.

Good luck with it, it does pay off very well in the end.

Oasisunit
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5176 posts since 8/5/03

27 Mar 2008 18:34
Just go man, you will regret it for sure when you're 35 and stuck in some geeky database computer job wishing you would've traveled more when you was young.. 20-25 should be best years of your life IMO. eat alot of wholeweat pasta and add double sugars in your coffee
Larry
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1980 posts since 9/9/03

27 Mar 2008 23:33
I am a partner in a small technology based company and do alot of what people would list as there dream job.
I think that the system at present is geared up to making people fit into a slot. However this does not suit everyone, and include myself in this, as I can't take being told what to do what so ever. If you feel the same then there is no point traveling or wishing you were doing something else, the only way to make your life sustainable is to do something about it. To get to this position is not easy though. My advice would be to write down on a sheet of paper where you would like to in three years in a broad sense. Keep it practical. Then break it down to a year, 6 months and finally three months. Do up a practical plan and fix yourself goals. Be prepared to sacrifice everything for a while and if you really push yourself you'll get there. Be willing to forgo your pride in that if it means flipping burgers while you work nights on your plan so be it.
Personally, I'd advise against travel as it is just delaying the inevitable and the memory of your travels will be long gone by the time you realize you hate your job. Nowadays you can travel at anytime or age and if you have money you can do it in style.
Hello World
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12170 posts since 7/3/05

27 Mar 2008 23:52
Best post so far larry.
deuce
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14051 posts since 21/1/08

28 Mar 2008 00:01
Well yes, and no. The thing is I really love my job in a sad way, its really relaxing where I work, can wear any clothes you want, can listen to mp3 player all day, eat at desk, and its a very relaxed atmosphere and chatty.
My main problem is I dont know what I want to do as a career, so if i were to go traveling and then come back, i would most likely apply for crappy office-junior jobs again. I'm really happy with the way things are going at the moment, my plan at the moment is just to simply get, and save as much dough as possible, while i figure things out (mainly career wise).

I think I'm going to wait 2 or so years, that'll give me some more time to think and plan things through, I'm only 20, so I guess theres no immediate rush. As others have said, I can always go on holidays in the mean time, save up a bit of money, and go traveling in a few years… in theory!
I was in such a rut after college (i did business studies for 2 years, then music technology for 1 year), then this job came along, and i feel really lucky, so i dont want to go back to that rut!
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Hello World
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12170 posts since 7/3/05

28 Mar 2008 00:15
Keep working until you have a transferable qualification above and better then you have now. Then you can travel between jobs (example 3 months) do a different part of the world each time, and come back on the same standard in your career.

The reason people get stuck in office junior jobs, is they never get transferable skills, eg you become some expert on the in house system / computer / database or something, this is not worth much in another business, so you sit it out until the person above you leaves or gets promoted.

If you have no ties you got to keep going at something until your being paid a good wage and your skill can be transferable to a higher paid position. If you get bored take 3 month breaks max between jobs and see the world.

Career wise your 20's is about getting skills/ qualifications and climbing the ladder to a good salary, you got to make sacrifices in this period as your other areas of life are generally less complex so you can handle stress and rapid change.
Larry
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1980 posts since 9/9/03

28 Mar 2008 00:24
Remind me abit of myself to be honest, but I went back into the rut. Think university is a test of stamina more than anything else, in that if you can take it for a long time and living in a certain way that other people can't take ( no money, no life ) it sets you apart from the norm. This is what I mean by making sacrifices and doing the hard slog. Can also be saving money to start a business or what ever, but what you put in you get out in a positive way thats the main point.