General Discussion: F1 - The season thread 2009


Guido
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12852 posts since 20/4/05

2 Apr 2009 23:09
To start the thread..

No real thread for it and was discussed just last week so on the issue of F1 what do those interested make of Hamilton being disqualified from the oz GP and points stripped today? Seems whatever the guy does if it's debatable he gets the book thrown at him.
Dee
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9655 posts since 22/11/07

2 Apr 2009 23:10
Seems a bit harsh for Hamilton, especially after such a great drive. He'll bounce back
KaneJS
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2596 posts since 5/8/07

2 Apr 2009 23:15
It always seems to happen to Hamiltion, he's either a dirty driver or is harshly treated.
Interesting to see Jenson Button and Brawn GP flying the flag, strong British contingent this year.
inversesquare
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6447 posts since 7/6/08

2 Apr 2009 23:17
Yeah, he's been largely forgotten about but it's a strong team.
Dee
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9655 posts since 22/11/07

2 Apr 2009 23:18
Certainly not a dirty driver, aggressive, hungry and talented but not dirty.

Jenson deserves the car, so nearly passed him over and he's quick and a savvy racer. Hope they keep it up.
6thEdition
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5882 posts since 7/3/08

2 Apr 2009 23:28
f1 is a joke, seem to make the rules up as they go along to suit.
inversesquare
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6447 posts since 7/6/08

2 Apr 2009 23:29
Yeah, I've always been a McLaren Mecedes supporter but it's good to see it mixed up a bit.

On the subject of Hamilton it's not to do with the driving, it's about what he told the stewards. The big teams always seem to get treaed harshly in my oppinion.
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9586 posts since 21/10/05

2 Apr 2009 23:33
jenson is average, he hasn't got the passion, desire, or fight that hamilton has, fact. Personally i feel that hamilton is the best british driver of the last 10 years if not ever - you have to remember that this is only his third f1 season. Brawn GP should be on top form with the amount of time and money that Honda spent developing the car, their story is a fairy tale but it will be different in abu dhabi - i would offer noble odds on them not having a driver in the top 5. Brawn don't have the financial clout to stay competitor this year, and definitely next year what are they going to use to develop a new car? combine this with two mediocre second string drivers and the current form won't last

todays decision is another example of the failings of the FIA, i re watched sundays GP late last night and the commentators seemed very confused when the safety car was deployed on the 3rd to last lap - even the official f1 placings showed hamilton in 3rd it will be interesting to see a offical statement from the FIA



Dee
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9655 posts since 22/11/07

2 Apr 2009 23:34
inverse square wrote: Yeah, I've always been a McLaren Mecedes supporter but it's good to see it mixed up a bit.

On the subject of Hamilton it's not to do with the driving, it's about what he told the stewards. The big teams always seem to get treaed harshly in my oppinion.

Excluding those cheating mother fuckers in red. Eye-wink
Axiom
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249 posts since 28/10/08

2 Apr 2009 23:37
I can't get over just how bad the cars look this season.
Best
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9586 posts since 21/10/05

2 Apr 2009 23:41
you crazy esse, look past the wing and you have the best looking cars for a long time, throw into the mix slicks and you've got a beaut of a car…. (bar the renualt)

inversesquare
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6447 posts since 7/6/08

2 Apr 2009 23:41
Stanleyboy wrote:
inverse square wrote: Yeah, I've always been a McLaren Mecedes supporter but it's good to see it mixed up a bit.

On the subject of Hamilton it's not to do with the driving, it's about what he told the stewards. The big teams always seem to get treaed harshly in my oppinion.

Excluding those corrupt mother fuckers in red. Eye-wink

Yeah Eye-wink
6thEdition
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5882 posts since 7/3/08

2 Apr 2009 23:42
I wonder what is going to happen to the three teams using that diffuser or whatever it is that makes them so much quicker (brawn being one), probably nothing… mclaren are working on their car, i hope that when they do come up with the solutions to suit the rule change, hamilton will be flying again.
Dee
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9655 posts since 22/11/07

2 Apr 2009 23:50
Best wrote: jenson is average, he hasn't got the passion, desire, or fight that hamilton has, fact. Personally i feel that hamilton is the best british driver of the last 10 years if not ever - you have to remember that this is only his third f1 season. Brawn GP should be on top form with the amount of time and money that Honda spent developing the car, their story is a fairy tale but it will be different in abu dhabi - i would offer noble odds on them not having a driver in the top 5. Brawn don't have the financial clout to stay competitor this year, and definitely next year what are they going to use to develop a new car? combine this with two mediocre second string drivers and the current form won't last

todays decision is another example of the failings of the FIA, i re watched sundays GP late last night and the commentators seemed very confused when the safety car was deployed on the 3rd to last lap - even the official f1 placings showed hamilton in 3rd it will be interesting to see a offical statement from the FIA


Have to disagree with you on this one Ash. Whilst I'm a huge fan of Hamilton it's still early days and the the potential for him to succeed is great. His GP2 drives were legend with probably one of the best over taking manouevers I have ever seen in motorsport.



It's well know in the paddock that Button has talent, unfortunately his deals have not proved him well until now, but I think we will see some pretty cool headed driving if his car remains the one to beat. I'm sure the passion will resurface, proly already has.

I can't see Brawn slipping much, Mclaren & Ferrari will be up there but Williams are showing strong too, and with Frank it's only a matter of time till his team take the reigns once more. As for finances Brawn is a huge outfit and reaping in the cash. I think they could pull this season off in the top 3 if the diffuser row stays as it is.

Greatest British GP driver?? so many. I liked Graham Hill, from what I have read and watched but as a fan I watched Mansell come into the sport and make his mark, and for me he was up there with Senna and the Professor. Il Leone being one of the greatest drivers there ever was in the eyes of Enzo. Obviously before the days of the cheating Kraut.
harrybarclay
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748 posts since 8/3/09

2 Apr 2009 23:52
Best wrote: you crazy esse, look past the wing and you have the best looking cars for a long time, throw into the mix slicks and you've got a beaut of a car…. (bar the renualt)

Not really. F1 cars haven't been beautiful for a long time. They're built for purpose.
Dee
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9655 posts since 22/11/07

2 Apr 2009 23:58
There's been a few nice ones in recent years but throughout the decades there have always been times when the designs went a bit stupid. 80's provided some really nice cars. Shame about the front wings this year, the only thing that really detracts from some of the cars.
Axiom
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249 posts since 28/10/08

3 Apr 2009 00:02
Best wrote: you crazy esse, look past the wing and you have the best looking cars for a long time, throw into the mix slicks and you've got a beaut of a car…. (bar the renualt)

The only one I like this year is the Williams. The worst one by a mile is the Renault; I'd agree with you on that. It's horrendous.
breckroadlover
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927 posts since 5/3/09

3 Apr 2009 00:02
Best wrote: jenson is average, he hasn't got the passion, desire, or fight that hamilton has, fact. Personally i feel that hamilton is the best british driver of the last 10 years if not ever - you have to remember that this is only his third f1 season.

rubbish…2 of those seasons hamilton has been in the best car on the grid and he got extremely lucky winning his title, not even his fanboys can deny that. he still has to prove himself and he is nowhere near good as mansell - let alone any other british driver yet because he is yet to prove himself properly.
6thEdition
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5882 posts since 7/3/08

3 Apr 2009 00:03
that overtaking manouver is brilliant, shows great track knowledge, clever bastard.
New York Herald Tribune
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2015 posts since 13/8/04

3 Apr 2009 00:15
Mansell was shit hot… was never a huge fan but he was a great driver. Hamilton might get to the top of the British drivers one day, but its fair to remember he's had a frankly unprecedented amount of support from a massive team through his whole career, making the transition to F1 very different to previous driver's experience, effectively been with the team for years already and backed by them even against the world champion in the other car. Even in relatively modern F1, when Schumacher arrived in the Jordan getting the the thing to 7th on the grid on his debut was considered some achievement and Alonso obviously had the Minardi experience in more recent times…