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Kadafi39
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posted 25 Mar 2021 22:47, edited 25 Mar 2021 22:47
-DiscoTits- wrote: They didn't waste millions on the test and trace try billions. And a further 20 odd billion has been set aside for it. There's something definitely fishy about the allocation of that money as there's no way the system costs that much. Its daylight robbery but you English and Welsh lot are insistent on voting in the tory toffs.
You sure it was billions just for the track and trace part? 20 billion set aside sounds excessive also!

There were thousands of "tracking officers" being paid hundreds a day to log in to a system and never have to take a call or do anything else.
Hundreds of system consultants were paid £6k+ a day.
Hundreds of millions wasted on faulty PPE and suspicious contracts awarded to companies associated with the tories in fields the companies had no previous experience in!

And this is all going on whilst families in need of support are told children wont be provided food when schools are shut, we all saw the half a carrot and other assorted shit that was eventually provided after the ensuing uproar.

I don't think we have ever seen more blatant corruption and misuse of public funds, and still there is no accountability.
joeyjojo
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26 Mar 2021 07:04
Word
andymakesglasses
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posted 26 Mar 2021 09:07, edited 26 Mar 2021 09:07
Kadafi39 wrote: You sure it was billions just for the track and trace part?

£12 billion initially set aside.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2020-09-24/debates/B4F7EAC3-6E39-4F7C-A899-2F9075CB72BE/TheEconomy#contribution-7985F6AD-E9D2-46F1-8617-57C084AF63C2

Later amended to £20 billion allocated.
https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/The-governments-approach-to-test-and-trace-in-England-interim-report.pdf#page=37

Which rose to £22 billion with £15 billion set aside for next year.
https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/news/150988/unimaginable-cost-of-test-trace-failed-to-deliver-central-promise-of-averting-another-lockdown/

The budget covers the testing part of the test and trace programme too which is a significant cost, but still.
Sneakysbest
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26 Mar 2021 09:18
Work for a consulting firm that’s involved heavily in it (fortunately don’t work in the public sector side of the business) and there doesn’t seem to be any slow down or change in attitudes to relentlessly pursuing government money.

Perfect storm of greed and incompetence.
Rez
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8657 posts since 5/4/09

26 Mar 2021 09:53
All this waste and statutory sick pay, one of the lowest in Europe (and one of the easiest ways to encourage people to stay at home and not spread it), has not been increased.


'Workers are entitled to just £94.25 a week when they are ill – significantly less than the National Minimum Wage – and even then this payment normally only kicks in on the fourth consecutive day of absence. The first three days of sickness are unpaid'

This is why, pre pandemic, the UK takes nearly the least amount of sick days across Europe.

Razorlight123
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posted 26 Mar 2021 10:10, edited 26 Mar 2021 10:10
Read back a couple of pages, and I have to agree with everything put here - this has to be the one of the worst British governments.

Lacks logical framework, they lack morals & ethics and transparency regarding every issue and continue to lie until it is no longer possible to do so. Even then there are no repercussions and the cycle continues.

There has been significant cuts to research particularly international research which just doesn't tally, whilst they continue to waste millions upon millions money on PR stunts.

I'm not saying I'm a Corbynist, but the way he was bastardised in the media from day , whilst Boris has in essence had an 'easy' ride during his premiership is quite telling of media bias. Shame really.

Kadafi39
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posted 26 Mar 2021 11:07, edited 26 Mar 2021 11:07
andymakesglasses wrote:
Kadafi39 wrote: You sure it was billions just for the track and trace part?

£12 billion initially set aside.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2020-09-24/debates/B4F7EAC3-6E39-4F7C-A899-2F9075CB72BE/TheEconomy#contribution-7985F6AD-E9D2-46F1-8617-57C084AF63C2

Later amended to £20 billion allocated.
https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/The-governments-approach-to-test-and-trace-in-England-interim-report.pdf#page=37

Which rose to £22 billion with £15 billion set aside for next year.
https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/news/150988/unimaginable-cost-of-test-trace-failed-to-deliver-central-promise-of-averting-another-lockdown/

The budget covers the testing part of the test and trace programme too which is a significant cost, but still.

That is astounding. When you think about what that sort of money could achieve and what our govt has achieved with it, it can only be described as theft.

Would be interesting to find out what countries like singapore and korea, who had very effective track and trace programs spent on that element of covid. I can guarantee it was no where near the figures our govt has "spaffed up the wall"

Basically Boris is handing contracts to friends and allowing associates of his party to literally steal public funds and telling us investigating child sex abuse and feeding children or paying nurses a fair salary is a waste of public funds.
Rez
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26 Mar 2021 11:44
They terrorised and deported elderly black british people to their deaths.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/19/lambs-to-the-slaughter-50-lives-ruined-by-the-windrush-scandal

Amber Rudd as home secretary resigned (not because of the misery she caused, but because it was leaked that she had lied about setting immigration targets), and she now has a cosy slot on Times Radio where she talks about culture with her daughter.

There will be zero consequences for Johnson, Hancock, or anyone else over anything that's happened during Covid. We do not live in a country that believes in accountability for the people elected to lead us.
andymakesglasses
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26 Mar 2021 12:21
Kadafi39 wrote: That is astounding. When you think about what that sort of money could achieve and what our govt has achieved with it, it can only be described as theft.

To put it into some quantifiable context, the entire budget for Scotland is around £30 billion.
swede
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posted 26 Mar 2021 13:04, edited 26 Mar 2021 13:04
Sneakysbest wrote: Work for a consulting firm that’s involved heavily in it (fortunately don’t work in the public sector side of the business) and there doesn’t seem to be any slow down or change in attitudes to relentlessly pursuing government money.

Perfect storm of greed and incompetence.

deloitte?

family member works there and last May was told he would be promoted, but wouldnt be getting a payrise or bonus given how badly they were losing money during covid

fast forward to this week and they have been back-dated all their pay and given their bonus, largely due to the "success" of the test and trace program Laughing out loud Laughing out loud
swede
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26 Mar 2021 13:05
i know someone at EY that has just started working on it this week too. something for CV
Razorlight123
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26 Mar 2021 16:33
andymakesglasses wrote:
Kadafi39 wrote: That is astounding. When you think about what that sort of money could achieve and what our govt has achieved with it, it can only be described as theft.

To put it into some quantifiable context, the entire budget for Scotland is around £30 billion.

This is kind of why, on the surface - I don't get why you wouldn't want your own independence from Britain.
Rez
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posted 26 Mar 2021 17:13, edited 26 Mar 2021 17:13
swede wrote:
Sneakysbest wrote: Work for a consulting firm that’s involved heavily in it (fortunately don’t work in the public sector side of the business) and there doesn’t seem to be any slow down or change in attitudes to relentlessly pursuing government money.

Perfect storm of greed and incompetence.

deloitte?

family member works there and last May was told he would be promoted, but wouldnt be getting a payrise or bonus given how badly they were losing money during covid

fast forward to this week and they have been back-dated all their pay and given their bonus, largely due to the "success" of the test and trace program Laughing out loud Laughing out loud

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/test-and-trace-deloitte-parliamentary-answers-lines-to-take_uk_605b9a1cc5b66d30c7411ab5 lmao government is even outsourcing it's own governance
swede
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26 Mar 2021 17:37
Laughing out loud Laughing out loud ffs
Razorlight123
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26 Mar 2021 20:39
Brilliant Laughing out loud
Razorlight123
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posted 26 Mar 2021 22:10, edited 26 Mar 2021 22:10
Priti Patel departments alleged expenses, some of the costs of justifiable to be fair…

Edit: I was looking at these costs through a corporate lens, no way are these costs justifiable on public funds Laughing out loud


Source: https://bylinetimes.com/2021/03/24/home-office-fails-to-explain-strange-expenses/
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27 Mar 2021 11:45
UPDATE: At 7.12pm on 26 March 2021, the Home Office released a statement on Twitter which read: “It is wrong to claim the Home Office expenses that have been circulated today are the Home Secretary’s. They are department wide and for vital equipment like PPE. It is completely false to say the Home Office has spent money on beauty products, it was PPE. We make no apology for buying PPE to keep our staff safe during the pandemic. The spending in Primark was for asylum seekers who would have not had appropriate clothing when arriving in the UK. We are committed to delivering the best value for money for the British taxpayer, making sure every pound is spent in the most effective way.”
Rez
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27 Mar 2021 11:56
^^^ embarrassing
TROYBOY
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27 Mar 2021 12:08
How do you spend 5k in primark??!! Mental
misled
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27 Mar 2021 15:17
Meanwhile this

https://twitter.com/NoisyMV/status/1375604094337974274?s=09