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figurine
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6022 posts since 14/5/07

28 Jul 2021 21:25
It's not an ad hominem to point out the overwhelming majority of the scientific community see the Covid vaccines as safe and that LFC isn't an expert in that area.
-DiscoTits-
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952 posts since 26/11/07

posted 28 Jul 2021 22:07, edited 28 Jul 2021 22:07
I'm 31 now. Double vaxxed with the hope of returning to normality. If I die at 50 because of a complication of this vaccine but have managed to live a normal life and travel the world, hug family and friends and form meaningful relationships etc then fucking bring it on. The alternative is never ending lockdowns and restrictions and culture absolutely dieing.
smith
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11464 posts since 5/5/04

posted 28 Jul 2021 23:00, edited 28 Jul 2021 23:00
^^^ well said. Life is short. Not going to worry about a vaccine killing me in the future when there are a zillion other things that might. Nearly 50% of us are going to die of cancer if we get beyond 50 years of age anyway so no point worrying what a vaccine might or might not do to us, when it's evident it is meant to keep us out of hospital and potentially dieing before the end of this decade.
emixam
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499 posts since 8/2/12

posted 29 Jul 2021 04:31, edited 29 Jul 2021 04:31
-DiscoTits- wrote: The alternative is never ending lockdowns and restrictions and culture absolutely dieing.

Masks, social distance, lockdowns won't end with the vaccines. Don't think for a minute this will bring you back to a "normal life" even if 100% is vaccinated. Look at what is happening in Israel. You won't be traveling abroad next year even if vaccinated, that's almost certain.
swede
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9977 posts since 21/3/09

29 Jul 2021 06:06
Rick have you had the vax?

LFC are your kids not going to want to go on holiday abroad at some point?
LFC
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5714 posts since 14/6/11

29 Jul 2021 06:24
We went away to Rhodes last August and it was brilliant. None of us caught any covids either being on a plane and in a resort with hundreds of people. No vaccine then either. So no, we’ll have a couple of years now not going away as we want another Baby.

Just to add, I've got nothing against anyone who chooses to have the jab, loads of my mates have had it, just don’t think people should be bullied in to something that hardly makes a difference. I’m never guna kill as many people as Boris has even if I get it again and pass it to someone.
swede
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9977 posts since 21/3/09

29 Jul 2021 07:07
Fair play mate - wishing you both all the best
RickRude
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3927 posts since 13/1/12

29 Jul 2021 08:03
Yes Swede I have. Missus was bullied into it as well in a shocking way that if I had the money I would mount a legal challenge towards the body she is part of. Got two kids as well. I’m just really uncomfortable not with the vaccine - but with the way the government is acting and how it will pave the way for more control and taking away of freedom. Society is already crazy enough and this is creating more division. Also if you look at vaccine uptake - it’s low in BAME communities and Low income as well. That’s why the “us” versus “them” rhetoric irks me so much. I understand Peoples points but when the notion is ake away rights and all that stuff - just a step too far. Anyone hear the Prime Minister of Israel speech - was like something out of a dystopian movie. Also, I despise Boris and his cronies so I am bias to anything he says really. Rant over,
I’ll get back in my box and focus on winding Swede and Rez up about Brexit and Virtue Signalling when I can.
Crackajack
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8008 posts since 21/4/05

29 Jul 2021 08:19
For me, Risk of Covid > risk of vaccine. Quite simple really.

If you disagree, and are not completely shielding yourself and family (as that a action could justify taking a position that Covid is less dangerous), show your working.
swede
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9977 posts since 21/3/09

29 Jul 2021 10:00
Fair play Rick - keep fighting that good fight brother

Crackajack wrote: For me, Risk of Covid > risk of vaccine. Quite simple really.

100%. Ive harped on about this before in here I think but it is truly as simple as that. As with any medical intervention (or health policy); it just comes down to the risk:benefit ratio
Crackajack
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8008 posts since 21/4/05

29 Jul 2021 10:15
Also any vaccine risks touted only seem to involve you as an individual, whereas the Covid risk applies to anyone you are in contact with and wider society. Even more compelling when looked at like that.

Arguing against vaccines generally seems a bit odd, as we all get vaccinated as kids, for exotic travel, lots for flu every year. We just haven't needed a vaccine program like this before here.
swede
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9977 posts since 21/3/09

29 Jul 2021 10:33
Agree. Compulsory vaccines are nothing new either. Doctors have to have Hep B to protect themselves and others. I had to have it for my PhD too. Don’t like vaccines? Tough shit go and do something else
-DiscoTits-
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952 posts since 26/11/07

posted 29 Jul 2021 13:13, edited 29 Jul 2021 13:13
emixam wrote:
-DiscoTits- wrote: The alternative is never ending lockdowns and restrictions and culture absolutely dieing.

Masks, social distance, lockdowns won't end with the vaccines. Don't think for a minute this will bring you back to a "normal life" even if 100% is vaccinated. Look at what is happening in Israel. You won't be traveling abroad next year even if vaccinated, that's almost certain.

Erm I'm booked to go to Portugal in a week and a half. So yeah. Looks like I'll easily be going abroad.

The world will not stay locked down for another year. Economies cannot handle it. Double vaccination will be the only real option of travelling abroad. And other countries are all already doing the same. The wealthier developed nations with high vax rates will almost certainly allow travel between them.
emixam
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499 posts since 8/2/12

posted 29 Jul 2021 13:30, edited 29 Jul 2021 13:30
I said next year, look at israel. let's talk then, but I'd love to be wrong.
joeyjojo
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4656 posts since 24/8/06

29 Jul 2021 13:52
What’s going on in Israel?
Kadafi39
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2031 posts since 30/10/09

29 Jul 2021 13:58
They had huge uptake on the vaccine, and vaccinated the vast majority of their population, yet cases are still rising and they are now offering a 3rd jab Roll Eyes
joeyjojo
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4656 posts since 24/8/06

29 Jul 2021 14:05
Ah I see
RickRude
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3927 posts since 13/1/12

29 Jul 2021 14:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoaSMPhJc1s

mental
smith
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11464 posts since 5/5/04

29 Jul 2021 14:37
Israel recently improved relations with Morocco and have just started running two direct flights there for the first time in forever and estimate 200,000 Israeli tourists to go within year one.


Kadafi39 wrote: They had huge uptake on the vaccine, and vaccinated the vast majority of their population, yet cases are still rising and they are now offering a 3rd jab Roll Eyes

Deaths are extremely low and even been at 0 for consecutive days. They are now starting to get their peak of the Delta variant which we appear to have seen the peak of already here. Deaths will rise in Israel but predicted to be much less than their last wave when they were still rolling out the vaccine.





That's hilarious. "CANT DO THIS, CANT GO HERE , CANT BE WITH HUGE CROWDS…..(whispers) unless you get a negative covid test"

So exactly same as UK will be Laughing out loud

Israel still leading the way in the fight against COVID.
emixam
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499 posts since 8/2/12

posted 29 Jul 2021 14:40, edited 29 Jul 2021 14:40
joeyjojo wrote: What’s going on in Israel?

From an article last week:

Israel on brink of lockdown just a month after scrapping face masks & social distancing rules

Despite Israel's advanced vaccination campaign, Bennett has called on Israelis to wear masks in closed public places once more and to avoid travel.

Two weeks after the legal requirement to wear a mask was dropped, it was reimposed - and now the state is going ahead with a “soft suppression” policy to battle the growing Covid cases.