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-DiscoTits-
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925 posts since 26/11/07

9 Apr 2020 14:31
Going camping in the wild isn’t a legit excuse to leave the house and travel though is it? I get that you’re gutted this shit is happening on your birthday, but it’s the same for thousands of others. Social distancing and quarantine rules don’t just stop because you want to go camping.
jplxx
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1774 posts since 3/11/09

9 Apr 2020 14:36
I’ll build the tent in the living room and open all the windows.
smith
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11282 posts since 5/5/04

posted 9 Apr 2020 14:48, edited 9 Apr 2020 14:48
jplxx wrote:
smith wrote: To think your birthday could have been so much better, had the "just the flu" gang been online in the past hour to offer you alternative advice Sad

Fuck off. I was just asking if anyone had any ideas for something to do. Self isolate but still do something fun. Like this https://www.beer52.com/cyberfest is cool for folk who like beer.

Might go camp in the wild or just get pished in the flat. Watch stop making sense and pretend I’m there.

If camping were allowed whether it's for a birthday or not, I'm pretty sure the majority of Londoners would be doing that right now in order to escape the confines of their bedroom walls. But by all means try it. Let us know how you get on. I reckon a Birthday constitutes "Essential travel". Sticking out tongue
jplxx
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1774 posts since 3/11/09

9 Apr 2020 14:53
Yeah I never thought about that. Assumed camping away from folk would be alright if no ones around and don’t get caught. But aye fuck it get pished in the hoose and get good grub in.

London’s different to Glasgow man. Everyone is doing what they want here. Streets are busier than they’ve ever been. So much dog shit everywhere now aswell. Which make me wonder where those dogs shat afore.
swede
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9697 posts since 21/3/09

9 Apr 2020 14:54
Burt wrote: If it's your Birthday you're allowed to ignore all social distancing measures and do whatever you please. Why stop at camping? Group hike with the lads and a few Brass's then back to the yurt for an evening of Stella and Spin the Bottle.

Laughing out loud Laughing out loud
swede
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9697 posts since 21/3/09

9 Apr 2020 14:56
LFC wrote: Daughters school email has just said at least 7 more weeks of it they are preparing for.

italy and france extending lockdown. given we are 2 weeks behind italy it should be ~6 more weeks of lockdown at least for us too

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-09/spain-italy-to-extend-lockdowns-amid-persistent-rise-in-cases
Doogan
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1003 posts since 13/4/14

9 Apr 2020 16:34
jplxx wrote: Yeah I never thought about that. Assumed camping away from folk would be alright if no ones around and don’t get caught. But aye fuck it get pished in the hoose and get good grub in.

London’s different to Glasgow man. Everyone is doing what they want here. Streets are busier than they’ve ever been. So much dog shit everywhere now aswell. Which make me wonder where those dogs shat afore.

Dirty bastards not cleaning after their dogs. Does my head in.
Rez
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8657 posts since 5/4/09

9 Apr 2020 16:40
carl lewis wrote: Is Priti Patel sick?

You can't deport a virus so don't think there's much she can do.

And I think the government would rather have the police keep interpreting the rules themselves rather than be prescriptive. So she won't be getting involved there.

Can't believe the police dyed a pond black in Buxton to discourage visitors Laughing out loud

Also she does that weird smirk every time she's interviewed - that smirk didn't play that well when they were deporting black nurses, don't think it'll play any better when she's supposed to be lauding them now.
fudge.dredd
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1645 posts since 15/12/12

posted 9 Apr 2020 16:41, edited 9 Apr 2020 16:41
-DiscoTits- wrote:
fudge.dredd wrote:
pops wrote:
fudge.dredd wrote: Wasn’t quite sure how long we’d be stuck in Copenhagen so came prepared Sticking out tongue Sticking out tongue


Posting this in the same thread as people writing about being furloughed , concerned about keeping their businesses , their homes and their jobs while also mocking those who choose to clap the underpaid health workers who put their lives at risk every single day .

Unbelievably crass.

Don’t worry the government will look after us all. They’re printing money left, right and centre.
This makes Corbyn’s magic policies seem sensible in comparison.

They were only expecting 10% of businesses to use their furlough scheme (and only as a last resort) but over 50% of businesses have applied for it so just that one policy is set to cost us (not ‘the government’)£40 billion.

It’s madness.

What is your grand proposal to all this fudge? What would you rather happen? Genuinely interested to hear what your proposals are and how you'd deal with it?

I wrote this earlier but it didn’t seem to go through,

Here’s what I would have done, since you asked;

I wouldn’t have given mixed messages from the beginning. I wouldn’t have told people to stay home and yet not tell businesses to close, because they were afraid of it triggering insurance claims against them.

I would have stuck with the original instincts of his close advisers which was the ‘herd immunity’ strategy - let as many people get it as possible to build immunity and at the same time protect those most vulnerable to it.

The media has been using the ‘war’ analogy for this for a while now and it needs to stop. This isn’t a ‘war’ because there is no winning. Eventually we will have to treat this like HIV when it first became prevalent; accept it will kill some people and learn to live with it.

Both measles and smallpox were both eventually eradicated via herd immunity. The difference with COVID-19 is that the most recent research is suggesting that a massive percentage of people that have it don’t show any symptoms at all. Ever. There’s your answer.

There WILL be a u-turn at some point. From ‘lockdown’ to herd immunity. There is no vaccine coming and businesses cannot stay closed indefinitely.

They’ve made a major cock-up here and it will take someone brave to come out and admit they were wrong.

Edit: I’ve also seen somewhere above that Italy and Spain are extending lockdowns which seems to suggest the lockdown isn’t really working. Remember that ‘flattening the curve’ doesn’t reduce deaths; it just extends them over a longer period of time.
Rez
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8657 posts since 5/4/09

9 Apr 2020 16:43
lol herd immunity would have killed a quarter of a million people at the very best you psycho.
fudge.dredd
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1645 posts since 15/12/12

posted 9 Apr 2020 16:50, edited 9 Apr 2020 16:50
Rez wrote:
carl lewis wrote: Is Priti Patel sick?

Can't believe the police dyed a pond black in Buxton to discourage visitors Laughing out loud

Also she does that weird smirk every time she's interviewed - that smirk didn't play that well when they were deporting black nurses, don't think it'll play any better when she's supposed to be lauding them now.

Two things -

I’m in no way a fan of how the police have been acting but I did read that the dying of the pond was ‘fake news’ in that apparently they dye the pond every year, something to do with pollution? Could be wrong but some police guy was on about it on the radio.

Second of all, I think Patel has a genuine issue with the way her face rests. I don’t think it’s a smirk.
fudge.dredd
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1645 posts since 15/12/12

posted 9 Apr 2020 16:51, edited 9 Apr 2020 16:51
Rez wrote: lol herd immunity would have killed a quarter of a million people at the very best you psycho.

That’s absolute bollocks. The same scientist who claimed that had to backtrack on swine flu, foot and mouth, etc. He’s been wrong on virtually every occasion.

And I promise you this - the government WILL U-turn and I’ll quote your very words right back to you and then we’ll see who in government is a psycho.

He predicted 150,000 would die of BSE - to date 200 people have died. He was also behind very disputed work that resulted in millions of cattle and sheep being culled over the foot and mouth disease.

When that work was reviewed in 2006, it was found to be “not fit for purpose”.

I’ve actually no idea why they still use these ‘experts’.
Ineff
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9849 posts since 7/4/04

9 Apr 2020 16:54
Somebody had overtaken T Dot as the most boring Fuker.
fudge.dredd
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1645 posts since 15/12/12

9 Apr 2020 17:01
Ineff wrote: Somebody had overtaken T Dot as the most boring Fuker.

You’re not that bad mate.
nothingelseworked
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3557 posts since 21/2/10

posted 9 Apr 2020 17:09, edited 9 Apr 2020 17:09
Lockdown is essentially a long-term herd immunity strategy to control transmission and reduce deaths in the short-term. You don't really choose to do it - it is the natural end state, so I dunno how you can call it a u-turn…

Unless you're talking about the gov lifting lockdown being a u-turn? Which makes zero sense as well Laughing out loud
smith
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11282 posts since 5/5/04

posted 9 Apr 2020 17:15, edited 9 Apr 2020 17:15
fudge.dredd wrote: Edit: I’ve also seen somewhere above that Italy and Spain are extending lockdowns which seems to suggest the lockdown isn’t really working. Remember that ‘flattening the curve’ doesn’t reduce deaths; it just extends them over a longer period of time.

Flattening the curve reduces deaths as opposed to herd immunity which would see hospitals overwhelmed with patients and more deaths arising due to lack of ventilators. Why is it that Boris is able to recover in an NHS ICU bed right now? Because the hospital is just about coping with the demand.

Also flattening the curve buys us time to develop a vaccine and save even more lives.

Edit:
Ok Boris maybe not the best example because he would get preferential treatment if demand for care exceeded supply , but my point is he currently is getting cared for in an NHS hospital receiving NHS treatment.
figurine
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6001 posts since 14/5/07

9 Apr 2020 17:16
fudge.dredd wrote: Edit: I’ve also seen somewhere above that Italy and Spain are extending lockdowns which seems to suggest the lockdown isn’t really working. Remember that ‘flattening the curve’ doesn’t reduce deaths; it just extends them over a longer period of time.

Flattening the curve works by slowly admissions to intensive care units, therefore reducing deaths. Too many people all at once and those that potentially could have survived with better quality care will end up dying instead.
smith
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11282 posts since 5/5/04

9 Apr 2020 17:24
fudge.dredd wrote: And I promise you this - the government WILL U-turn and I’ll quote your very words right back to you and then we’ll see who in government is a psycho.

How do you make a U-turn after a month of lockdown already? Puzzled
fudge.dredd
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1645 posts since 15/12/12

9 Apr 2020 17:29
smith wrote:
fudge.dredd wrote: And I promise you this - the government WILL U-turn and I’ll quote your very words right back to you and then we’ll see who in government is a psycho.

How do you make a U-turn after a month of lockdown already? Puzzled

No I mean the policy will change to herd immunity officially.

Do you really think the deaths are going to decrease enough for them to just one day totally lift this lockdown?

There will have to be a trade off between people accepting deaths and the economy being destroyed.

Personally I’d rather take my chances than live in a police state with a destroyed economy.
fudge.dredd
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1645 posts since 15/12/12

9 Apr 2020 17:30
figurine wrote:
fudge.dredd wrote: Edit: I’ve also seen somewhere above that Italy and Spain are extending lockdowns which seems to suggest the lockdown isn’t really working. Remember that ‘flattening the curve’ doesn’t reduce deaths; it just extends them over a longer period of time.

Flattening the curve works by slowly admissions to intensive care units, therefore reducing deaths. Too many people all at once and those that potentially could have survived with better quality care will end up dying instead.

Despite what you see hospitals are NOT overwhelmed by and large.

Two huge hospitals close to where I live are both below the usual capacity with ambulances just sitting lined up outside. There have been some hospitals in London which have been overwhelmed but overall in the country, no.