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Joe Bloggs
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400 posts since 28/9/10

13 Mar 2020 13:03
It's basically enormous amounts of disruption to save the elderly and sick from a slightly increased flu mortality rate.

The question is whether it is worth the upheaval and economic downturn, which will inevitably in actual fact kill the most economically marginalised & vulnerable at higher levels than this flu will.

Already got friends in the events sphere who have been made redundant. I mean they will be okay in the long term but gig economy workers and for those on the breadline this will be horrific if society grinds to a halt for 3 months….

Can't help but feel the reaction has been majorly politicised, mainly by fear mongering newspapers selling ad space off the back of apocalypse type stories.
padawan
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4350 posts since 27/6/03

13 Mar 2020 14:06
Media love a story like this - Undoubtedly a worrying time made much worse by fear mongering stories that are based on hearsay and guess work. Now that the yanks are involved it will turn into a blame game for compo.
Our office is full of bolshy blokes who are apparently impervious to corona - "I've shook loads of peoples hands in meetings" etc - think this attitude is just plain wrong as no one really knows??
ismvil
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1391 posts since 16/9/11

13 Mar 2020 14:13
Pad tell them to man up and lick their hands after shaking hands
LFC
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4753 posts since 14/6/11

13 Mar 2020 14:27
Just look at Rudy Gobert the absolute fuckin mong Laughing out loud
nothingelseworked
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3551 posts since 21/2/10

13 Mar 2020 14:34
Woah didn't realise we had this many virologists on here Cool
Judgemelt
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26 posts since 27/9/19

13 Mar 2020 14:54
Joe Bloggs wrote: It's basically enormous amounts of disruption to save the elderly and sick from a slightly increased flu mortality rate.

The question is whether it is worth the upheaval and economic downturn, which will inevitably in actual fact kill the most economically marginalised & vulnerable at higher levels than this flu will.

Already got friends in the events sphere who have been made redundant. I mean they will be okay in the long term but gig economy workers and for those on the breadline this will be horrific if society grinds to a halt for 3 months….

Can't help but feel the reaction has been majorly politicised, mainly by fear mongering newspapers selling ad space off the back of apocalypse type stories.

Biggest amount of spastic misguided BS, at least on this page.
Judgemelt
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26 posts since 27/9/19

13 Mar 2020 14:56
padawan wrote: Media love a story like this - Undoubtedly a worrying time made much worse by fear mongering stories that are based on hearsay and guess work. Now that the yanks are involved it will turn into a blame game for compo.
Our office is full of bolshy blokes who are apparently impervious to corona - "I've shook loads of peoples hands in meetings" etc - think this attitude is just plain wrong as no one really knows??

We can hopefully wish those bolshy ladsladslads go first in nature's cull
NigelBenn
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4282 posts since 6/2/08

13 Mar 2020 14:59
Coronavirus kills nans and nan kids alike
NigelBenn
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4282 posts since 6/2/08

13 Mar 2020 14:59
Biggest killer since spicy monster munch
Judgemelt
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26 posts since 27/9/19

13 Mar 2020 15:55
NigelBenn wrote: Coronavirus kills nans and nan kids alike

Stupidity and ignorance are the biggest killers. Say tata to mummy and nanny, laddddd
smith
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10973 posts since 5/5/04

13 Mar 2020 16:08
Mob mentality didn't take long to overtake this thread now it's interfering with our daily lives in some way or another Laughing out loud


NigelBenn wrote: The flu kills many more people than this every year!

Don't be stupid. Can't compare a seasonal flu that infects about a billion people every year and kills far far fewer people than coronavirus has done for its number of recorded cases. We just dont know how many people are dieing or not from the coronavirus in unreported cases, but seeing as we trace most people tested positive for it in the UK as having come from an already infected country, we have a pretty good idea of its actual number.

NigelBenn wrote: Coronavirus kills nans and nan kids alike

You're a fucking idiot and can't believe I've wasted time trying to explain it to an idiotLaughing out loud
NigelBenn
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4282 posts since 6/2/08

13 Mar 2020 16:13
Cheaper strippers and brasses…what’s not to love
smith
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10973 posts since 5/5/04

13 Mar 2020 16:16
fudge.dredd wrote: Just a bit on context…


‘…In 1997 we were told that bird flu could kill millions worldwide. Thankfully, it did not.

In 1999 European Union scientists warned that BSE “could kill 500,000 people”. In total, 177 Britons died of vCJD.

The first Sars outbreak of 2003 was reported by as having “a 25% chance of killings tens of millions” and being “worse than Aids”. In 2006, another bout of bird flu was declared “the first pandemic of the 21st century”, the scares in 2003, 2004 and 2005 having failed to meet their body counts.

Then, in 2009, pigs replaced birds. The BBC announced that swine flu “could really explode”. The chief medical officer, Liam Donaldson, declared that “65,000 could die”. He spent £560m on a Tamiflu and Relenza stockpile, which soon deteriorated. The Council of Europe’s health committee chairman described the hyping of the 2009 pandemic as “one of the great medical scandals of the century”. These scenarios could have all come to pass of course – but they represent the direr end of the scale of predictions.

Should public life really be conducted on a worst-case basis?…’

Another fucking idiot who doesn't realise we have learnt from past outbreaks how to act and contain a virus that has the potential to become as deadly as figures suggest it might. The spanish Flu did afterall mutate after it got bored of taking out just the old and those with weaker immune systems in year 1 , then went after the healthy in year 2.
Judgemelt
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26 posts since 27/9/19

13 Mar 2020 16:29
I wouldn't bother with the tinhat duh duh ladbible laddddds. They're too 'ard for This. 'ARD!
Dee
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11767 posts since 22/11/07

13 Mar 2020 17:56
Joe Bloggs wrote: It's basically enormous amounts of disruption to save the elderly and sick from a slightly increased flu mortality rate.

The question is whether it is worth the upheaval and economic downturn, which will inevitably in actual fact kill the most economically marginalised & vulnerable at higher levels than this flu will.

Already got friends in the events sphere who have been made redundant. I mean they will be okay in the long term but gig economy workers and for those on the breadline this will be horrific if society grinds to a halt for 3 months….

Can't help but feel the reaction has been majorly politicised, mainly by fear mongering newspapers selling ad space off the back of apocalypse type stories.

The ad revenues lost on this are huge. Losses not gains, right across print, digital and linear.
MLI
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5173 posts since 6/10/09

13 Mar 2020 22:43
Yeah basically the tough guys in this thread who are blaming media hype are the most ass backwards deluded fukers in every thread. They usually just say Trump is orange and is illegitimately president, climate deniers are flat earthers and a UBI has no drawbacks.

Can any of you (including Fudge who I usually agree with) tell me why every government on Earth is willingly destroying their own economies to try to slow this down if it's just "media hype"?

The thing is the intel that they have says with SARS and MERS that it had very low transmissability. COVID has lower mortality that those (but 10-30 times higher than the flu) but very high transmissability. It's actually the perfect bio weapon (non detectable for weeks) and and many say it was actually leaked from a Chinese military lab.

It could easily also run in waves just like Spanish flu.

Look at the stories of St Louis during the spanish flu and how they stopped the staggering death rates in their city by social distancing.

We are overdue for a deadly pandemic that takes off in our connected world. It will hopefully destroy the world as we know it and reset a few things that have been getting out of control. Hopefully it will take out my parents and I'll finally be able to buy a property. If I die (which I could, history of asthma when I was a kid, and, by the way, plenty of middle aged men are getting killed by this thing) then I won't care because I'll be dead.

BRING IT ON.



Judgemelt
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26 posts since 27/9/19

14 Mar 2020 00:33
I'm afraid you will be sparred. 'history of asthma as a kid' is not proper asthma. Nor is mild to moderate asthma for this particular strain. More lung disease type (emphysema, bronchitis, COPD).
fudge.dredd
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1427 posts since 15/12/12

posted 14 Mar 2020 01:09, edited 14 Mar 2020 01:09
MLI wrote: Can any of you (including Fudge who I usually agree with) tell me why every government on Earth is willingly destroying their own economies to try to slow this down if it's just “media hype”?

I didn’t say it was JUST media hype - I’m calling it an overreaction as previous ones but wrapped up in today’s sensationalism.

Read today that over 80% of the deaths in Northern Italy are Chinese residents (from Wuhan) who work in the textile industry up there making those fancy bags and were home for their New Years..

But yes the panic is obviously due how easily it can be passed on to others - but this could also be a good thing if a lot more people have had it and we don’t know… as no one really knows, they are taking ‘worst case’ steps I suppose..
EssexBoyII
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6884 posts since 5/6/07

14 Mar 2020 01:13
its just another distraction along with brexit to keep us occupied whilst the one true threat to humanity continues unabated
fudge.dredd
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1427 posts since 15/12/12

posted 14 Mar 2020 01:13, edited 14 Mar 2020 01:13
smith wrote:
fudge.dredd wrote: Just a bit on context…


‘…In 1997 we were told that bird flu could kill millions worldwide. Thankfully, it did not.

In 1999 European Union scientists warned that BSE “could kill 500,000 people”. In total, 177 Britons died of vCJD.

The first Sars outbreak of 2003 was reported by as having “a 25% chance of killings tens of millions” and being “worse than Aids”. In 2006, another bout of bird flu was declared “the first pandemic of the 21st century”, the scares in 2003, 2004 and 2005 having failed to meet their body counts.

Then, in 2009, pigs replaced birds. The BBC announced that swine flu “could really explode”. The chief medical officer, Liam Donaldson, declared that “65,000 could die”. He spent £560m on a Tamiflu and Relenza stockpile, which soon deteriorated. The Council of Europe’s health committee chairman described the hyping of the 2009 pandemic as “one of the great medical scandals of the century”. These scenarios could have all come to pass of course – but they represent the direr end of the scale of predictions.

Should public life really be conducted on a worst-case basis?…’

Another fucking idiot who doesn't realise we have learnt from past outbreaks how to act and contain a virus that has the potential to become as deadly as figures suggest it might. The spanish Flu did afterall mutate after it got bored of taking out just the old and those with weaker immune systems in year 1 , then went after the healthy in year 2.

How did we learn from past outbreaks when the papers said millions would die from SARS in the papers yet ended with zero deaths and only 4 recorded cases in the entire UK? Do you read what I quoted or just saw my name and replied with ‘another fucking idiot’?

I bow to your supreme knowledge of virology - all my point was that we shouldn’t panic. What is panic going to achieve? Emptying store shelves?