General Discussion: FUK summer 2015 Six pack challenge = Ineff Challenge - Can you repeat his success


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Seventyfour
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9124 posts since 6/10/05

17 Jan 2020 23:44
shields88 wrote:
Seventyfour wrote: Has anyone used a massage gun?

I have one. They are good to be fair but you need to use them after each session to see the benefit.

I've seen a one online where you buy a cordless drill and they offer bits for the end that work like the usual massage guns, pretty good idea tbf.

Which one do you have?
FrIEND
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13634 posts since 27/11/03

17 Jan 2020 23:59
Must be pretty mild porn you watch if it’s only a cordless drill.

I’ve seen one powered by a petrol generator.
andymakesglasses
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20439 posts since 26/1/06

18 Jan 2020 08:44
Laughing out loud
shields88
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464 posts since 25/5/11

18 Jan 2020 21:34
Seventyfour wrote: Which one do you have?

This one. Cheap and works well enough - https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9063567


FrIEND wrote: Must be pretty mild porn you watch if it’s only a cordless drill.

I’ve seen one powered by a petrol generator.

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YLAup
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5485 posts since 5/9/11

7 Feb 2020 23:37
Right, a few of my problems from my challenging 2019 have been well documented on hereSticking out tongue , which I won't repeat, but after a dry January 2020 (and many bags of crisps) it's time for me to get back into a strong physical and mental routine.

The only problem being I'm a bit apprehensive of where to begin again. Currently doing 30 - 75 press-ups per day and often able to do planks up to 3 mins. Decent fitness history - 2 and a half marathons and decent swimmer.

However, and rather weirdly, stress last year caused me chronic acid reflux for a good 8 months, so much so that there were whole weekends I struggled to get to the bottom of road or out to the local shop without vomit inducing vertigo and deviating along the pavement. Had a few anxiety attacks, unbeknownst at the time, related to trapped stomach acid and the feeling of Keeling over in public. A short run would end in chest pain mimicking a heart attack, when it fact it was just stomach acid backing up. I'm loads better but wondering where to start again to ease my way back in slowly.

No crisp jokes please.

YLAup
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5485 posts since 5/9/11

7 Feb 2020 23:39
And I don't want to be another Burt drawing
Seventyfour
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9124 posts since 6/10/05

8 Feb 2020 00:51
Not a great deal of help on the fitness side but have you tried Nexium? It works wonders on the acid reflux etc.

All I can really say is start light and work your way up. You don't want to risk injury doing too much too soon
thearm
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38 posts since 17/9/19

8 Feb 2020 09:06
Do you have the opportunity to do pullups and chinups? You'll be amazed at the effect they have on your upper body even after a short time of doing them. They work just about every muscle above your waist including your core and abs.
morning mist
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3363 posts since 29/5/05

8 Feb 2020 16:51
Sounds like you need to look over your diet. Have you contacted a nutritionist?

IMO 'Starting Strength' is the best way to build a solid base and then move on to more advanced programs if needed

https://startingstrength.com/get-started/programs
Trent
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1996 posts since 18/1/09

8 Feb 2020 17:12
Generally when I'm completely overweight and out of date, I usually just ease myself into circuit training if you can find some locally. Something Bootcamp or CrossFit does the trick, often a few tools but that's anywhere, including the boozer. Once you get into about 3 weeks, you'll be able to manage the classes better and hopefully start enjoying them.
morning mist
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3363 posts since 29/5/05

8 Feb 2020 17:31
Trent wrote: Generally when I'm completely overweight and out of date, I usually just ease myself into circuit training if you can find some locally. Something Bootcamp or CrossFit does the trick, often a few tools but that's anywhere, including the boozer. Once you get into about 3 weeks, you'll be able to manage the classes better and hopefully start enjoying them.

Big nay imo, especially for someone in YLAup's position.

Good technique is the most important aspect of training longevity. There is no inherent fault in Crossfit or Bootcamp, but technique is the first thing that get compromised when you add time and group pressure. Especially for a beginner.
Crackajack
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7665 posts since 21/4/05

8 Feb 2020 18:15
Agree with the above, especially if your 30+ and so generally a bit more 'creaky'. Seek out a personal trainer/coach to learn the basic lifts / starting strength. Although a lot of PT don't necessarily have good form or qualifications (even if they look ripped themselves) so maybe try a weightlifting gym. It will cost but it's an investment.
YLAup
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5485 posts since 5/9/11

9 Feb 2020 18:42
Cheers, going to look into a few of these
EssexBoyII
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6889 posts since 5/6/07

9 Feb 2020 20:30
I agree that you need to attain a base strength before doing CF.
As suggested, a goal of a certain number of chin ups, pull ups is a good idea. You need to have your lats, biceps, triceps and core strong enough to be able to do it so you will soon be able to work out where you’re lacking and then do exercises which target that muscle. Once you can do a certain number then experiment with different grips etc to find new weaknesses.
I find boxing good cardio and you need core and balance so it’s a good all round activity.
Start doing park run if you’re near one
Ineff
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posted 10 Feb 2020 15:26, edited 10 Feb 2020 15:26
Crackajack wrote: Although a lot of PT don't necessarily have good form

Yeah, trainers at chain gyms, especially budget ones, are pretty bad from what I've seen.

I think either basic lifts or calisthenics would be the best way to go. If your panic attacks are that bad, calisthenics is an easier option as you can do it at home.
shields88
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464 posts since 25/5/11

11 Feb 2020 18:19
I'm starting to incorporate a lot of calisthenics and yoga work into my training and the results are very good.

Particularly from a flexibility / range of motion point of view. Since I've started my olympic lifting has improved so much through my shoulders and hips opening up loads.

I've always done pull ups, chins, muscle ups etc but have since started doing a lot of ring push ups and the squeeze you get in your chest is so much better than anything I get from weights.
Peregrine
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1008 posts since 17/6/09

posted 11 Feb 2020 21:10, edited 11 Feb 2020 21:10
Getting back in the gym after a lay-off and a few stop starts. Decided to work on base fitness first by focusing on mobility, callisthenics and the prowler. Did barely 20 reps of 50 metre sprints with one today and couldn’t move after the last for about ten minutes….
edlo
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632 posts since 13/9/14

11 Feb 2020 21:54
morning mist wrote: Sounds like you need to look over your diet. Have you contacted a nutritionist?

IMO 'Starting Strength' is the best way to build a solid base and then move on to more advanced programs if needed

https://startingstrength.com/get-started/programs

This recommendation is about 10 years out of date, the programming in this routine is widely regarded as diabolical
morning mist
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3363 posts since 29/5/05

11 Feb 2020 23:51
It's a simple, straight forward program for a beginner to learn the basics. Nothing more.

Diabolical? Laughing out loud Laughing out loud Laughing out loud
Razorlight123
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4673 posts since 13/1/10

posted 12 Feb 2020 00:15, edited 12 Feb 2020 00:15
Starting strength is great for beginners - or 5x5 stronglifts.

Main thing is to get your form right first, and gradually increase weights by 2.5kg the next time your doing a certain exercise.

As long as your diet is adequate you'll gain confidence and increase your strength in no time.

After a few months, you can then venture to other programs that will help achieve your goal