General Discussion: FUK summer 2015 Six pack challenge = Ineff Challenge - Can you repeat his success


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Sholto
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830 posts since 25/12/12

23 Mar 2022 12:56
Grim. Did you feel any warning signs before it tore, Ineff?
Ineff
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9855 posts since 7/4/04

23 Mar 2022 13:05
eazypz wrote: Instantly think of Scott Mendelson when I hear pec tear.



Happened to a friend of a friend, and he was 18 months to full recovery.
Apparently depends on the ‘grade’ of the year.c which will determine whether or not you’ll need surgery.

Hope it turns out ok!

Haha mine went pretty purple, but nothing like that.

Did your friend of a friend have surgery? I'm not sure of the grade yet. Was told I could rehab it back to a pretty good level, but sounded likely I'd need surgery to get back to 100%.
Ineff
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9855 posts since 7/4/04

23 Mar 2022 13:09
Sholto wrote: Grim. Did you feel any warning signs before it tore, Ineff?

Nah, felt completely fine up until it happened. The set before was a 90kg dip and felt pretty easy, so didn't think much of adding another 10kg, but my pec just ripped mid-set.
Kadafi39
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2187 posts since 30/10/09

23 Mar 2022 13:20
That looks horrific ^. Wish you a quick recovery Ineff.

On another note, has anyone actually managed to get abs? I have increased my cardio massively over the last 12 months, I ran over 1200 miles, I have generally been eating well and always in a calorie deficit, I have dropped about 20kg, but only have 2 abs, How fucking hard is it!!!
quest
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3794 posts since 11/7/11

23 Mar 2022 13:32
keep dropping bf% maybe increase your deficit

that or do loads of gear, seems way more common these days
Kadafi39
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2187 posts since 30/10/09

23 Mar 2022 15:01
Yeah, its getting to a stage where im struggling now, Im down to about 12ish%, not feeling great with the amount of effort and lack of food and the slow results at this stage make it even harder to stay on track.

Yeah its brutal without some aid! Can imagine most achieve it in that way.
NigelBenn
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4781 posts since 6/2/08

23 Mar 2022 15:11
Damn ineff. Wish you a speedy recovery!
morning mist
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3706 posts since 29/5/05

23 Mar 2022 15:43
Kadafi39 wrote: Yeah, its getting to a stage where im struggling now, Im down to about 12ish%, not feeling great with the amount of effort and lack of food and the slow results at this stage make it even harder to stay on track.

Yeah its brutal without some aid! Can imagine most achieve it in that way.

Have you measured the BF% or is that your estimate?

Very common with people overestimating their BF% especially when dropping a good amount of weight

morning mist
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3706 posts since 29/5/05

23 Mar 2022 15:45
That sucks Ineff

Im on 5x65 kg dips right now but now im scared of increasing Eek
swiftus
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1874 posts since 1/7/09

23 Mar 2022 15:56
morning mist wrote: Have you measured the BF% or is that your estimate?

How do you estimate BF%?
morning mist
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3706 posts since 29/5/05

23 Mar 2022 16:01
by looking at people that have measured their BF% for comparison
eazypz
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posted 23 Mar 2022 16:05, edited 23 Mar 2022 16:05
Ineff wrote:
eazypz wrote: Instantly think of Scott Mendelson when I hear pec tear.



Happened to a friend of a friend, and he was 18 months to full recovery.
Apparently depends on the ‘grade’ of the year.c which will determine whether or not you’ll need surgery.

Hope it turns out ok!

Haha mine went pretty purple, but nothing like that.

Did your friend of a friend have surgery? I'm not sure of the grade yet. Was told I could rehab it back to a pretty good level, but sounded likely I'd need surgery to get back to 100%.

Should have added, he did have surgery and as far as I know, he’s back to where he was previously, albeit a bit more cautious now.


Kadafi39 wrote: On another note, has anyone actually managed to get abs? I have increased my cardio massively over the last 12 months, I ran over 1200 miles, I have generally been eating well and always in a calorie deficit, I have dropped about 20kg, but only have 2 abs, How fucking hard is it!!!

Im aiming to have abs by the end of May. This is just by weightlifting, and doing LISS for half hour at the end of every session, and being on a calorie deficit.
Also take a few supps and a fat burner as well.

How much do you weigh now and how tall are you?
Also, what’s your waist measurement, measured above the belly button?
Scottishmark
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843 posts since 25/1/11

23 Mar 2022 16:22
If you don’t have visible abs naturally then it’s an absolute ballache to get them showing - and even worse to maintain. Such is life. Laughing out loud
eazypz
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24 Mar 2022 08:36
Kadafi39 wrote: Yeah, its getting to a stage where im struggling now, Im down to about 12ish%, not feeling great with the amount of effort and lack of food and the slow results at this stage make it even harder to stay on track.

Yeah its brutal without some aid! Can imagine most achieve it in that way.

Forgot to add, if you’ve been on a constant deficit with no high calorie days, then your body goes into survival mode and preserves its fat as it’s not getting enough calories.
You need to add in a cheat day/meal to ‘trick’ it out of starvation mode.
morning mist
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3706 posts since 29/5/05

24 Mar 2022 12:36
eazypz wrote:
Kadafi39 wrote: Yeah, its getting to a stage where im struggling now, Im down to about 12ish%, not feeling great with the amount of effort and lack of food and the slow results at this stage make it even harder to stay on track.

Yeah its brutal without some aid! Can imagine most achieve it in that way.

Forgot to add, if you’ve been on a constant deficit with no high calorie days, then your body goes into survival mode and preserves its fat as it’s not getting enough calories.
You need to add in a cheat day/meal to ‘trick’ it out of starvation mode.

Old myth that,

For your body to go into "survival mode" you need to be basically not eating at all, the body will use fat for energy if there is no calories/glycogen stored. If your sweat smells like ammonia that means your body is using fat for energy.

Also one cheat day per week doesn't do much for your metabolism, if you are stuck at a weight try increasing your calories and keep it at that level until you plateau again. Your metabolism adapt to your diet so after a while (months) you need to change it up. The leaner you get the "more" you need to eat to not start losing muscles.
Ineff
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9855 posts since 7/4/04

6 Apr 2022 06:55
I think abs are more down to diet. My friends who calorie count or do a keto diet are the ones with the best abs. Getting strong is way more fun than getting abs.


morning mist wrote: That sucks Ineff

Im on 5x65 kg dips right now but now im scared of increasing Eek

That's good work man, what's your body weight?

Had an MRI on my pec, but need to go back for another one on my bicep as the tear goes all the way down to it.

maximus
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1803 posts since 13/7/06

6 Apr 2022 07:00
Ineff what would you say are your key exercises to build towards muscle up for a beginner?
Kadafi39
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2187 posts since 30/10/09

6 Apr 2022 09:56
morning mist wrote:
Kadafi39 wrote: Yeah, its getting to a stage where im struggling now, Im down to about 12ish%, not feeling great with the amount of effort and lack of food and the slow results at this stage make it even harder to stay on track.

Yeah its brutal without some aid! Can imagine most achieve it in that way.

Have you measured the BF% or is that your estimate?

Very common with people overestimating their BF% especially when dropping a good amount of weight

I have measured on some smart scales which I know are not entirely accurate and also estimated using other people as guides which is why I said about 12%ish.
I dropped another kg during the last couple of weeks though so feeling a little better about it!
Kadafi39
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2187 posts since 30/10/09

6 Apr 2022 09:58
eazypz wrote:
Kadafi39 wrote: Yeah, its getting to a stage where im struggling now, Im down to about 12ish%, not feeling great with the amount of effort and lack of food and the slow results at this stage make it even harder to stay on track.

Yeah its brutal without some aid! Can imagine most achieve it in that way.

Forgot to add, if you’ve been on a constant deficit with no high calorie days, then your body goes into survival mode and preserves its fat as it’s not getting enough calories.
You need to add in a cheat day/meal to ‘trick’ it out of starvation mode.

Definitely not every day! I'm a fat fuck at heart and love a few beers also, im always in a deficit week to week, but I deffo have binge days.
Sholto
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830 posts since 25/12/12

6 Apr 2022 10:39
maximus wrote: Ineff what would you say are your key exercises to build towards muscle up for a beginner?

You need to be great at pull ups, particularly in the top range of motion (getting chest to bar). The top movement is similar to a dip so it's also worthwhile working on those.

If you can't do a pullup yet I'd suggest the following vid could be helpful https://youtu.be/fO3dKSQayfg