u want carbs too. probably more important right after a workout
carbs/protein before protein after for sure.
General Discussion: FUK summer 2015 Six pack challenge = Ineff Challenge - Can you repeat his success
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20 Mar 2006 23:12
That's what I was trying to say on Page 1… but you seem to have worded it a lot better.
20 Mar 2006 23:19
You are correct to some extent in that, yes, it can be very hard to shift the flab and that some people are more disposed to being fat than others. HOWEVER, it is not something that should stop anyone - You will see results if you train with weights and eat sensibly.
Just in the quote you have given a classic example of how enudrance training/endless cardio does not do the trick. This is why so many people feel let down with the lack of results. Lots of exercise uses energy but if that means your body can gain it from muscle it doesnt need (i.e. chest/triceps when running) it will take it from there.
You must force your body to lose the fat and nothing else. If you partake in resistance training, your body will want to adapt to cope with the resistance and hold the muscle. Energy requirements will then come from fat (hopefully). This is another reason why extended cardio sessions are genreally not as effective as weights or high-intensity-interval training.
I have seen plenty of guys, bulk up, look like blimps but then 3 months down the line they have lost all the fat. Sure, they have lost a bit of muscle due to the rapid dieting. But apporaching it from a long term perspective, there is nothing stoppping you get results.
Hopefully this give you a bit of a boost. My pics are very attainable in that now that I have trained for a few years I am not trying to keep slim. In fact, I probably eat a lot worse that a fair few here and I am geneticly opposed to the body shape I have now (my natural weight is way lower). This makes it harder for me to keep muscle.
In fact, all this has made me vouch to having a go and see what actually trying to lose fat will make me look like - I'll check back in 8 weeks. Proof is in the pudding (or should I say whey shake).
Oh, and when you down about it all, just remember the words from the master himself:
Follow your dreams…you can reach your goals..I'm living proof…Beefcake…BEEFCAKE!
21 Mar 2006 02:13
Ha oh yeah, too late in the night now! Tiredness creeping in.
Hey Mr Vibe did your program enhance your eyesight as well!? No need for glasses
How long did it take for you to lose that weight?
21 Mar 2006 02:28
21 Mar 2006 03:16
buy some really skinny diors like a 29 waist and you're bound to lose weight to fit into them
also, handlethevibe - you weren't even fat in the first pic, look a bit too skinny now imo (no homo)
21 Mar 2006 07:32
21 Mar 2006 09:10
The point you are missing is the guy has never put an once of fat onto his body in his life, same as all the other guys here that are mega ripped up. Once you get a layer on there, getting it off is incredible hard work. They were thin and not so muscled and lean when young then put on muscle and not fat as they worked out.
I've been fat, then tried to cut back like that, and ive never been able to do it. Even when I was running over 50 miles per week marathon training i still wasn't as cut as that.
The body wants a small layer of fat over it, as it is a healthy natural state to be in. To get as lean as that, you are depeleting the bodys natural levels so low its desperate to get back to normal, hance the need to eat very small meals often to prevent it putting it on immediately. Once you got a layer of fat, convincing the body to give it up and go down to danger levels is super tough. Good luck on your challenge!
I've been fat, then tried to cut back like that, and ive never been able to do it. Even when I was running over 50 miles per week marathon training i still wasn't as cut as that.
The body wants a small layer of fat over it, as it is a healthy natural state to be in. To get as lean as that, you are depeleting the bodys natural levels so low its desperate to get back to normal, hance the need to eat very small meals often to prevent it putting it on immediately. Once you got a layer of fat, convincing the body to give it up and go down to danger levels is super tough. Good luck on your challenge!
That's what I was trying to say on Page 1… but you seem to have worded it a lot better.
The point you are missing is the guy has never put an once of fat onto his body in his life, same as all the other guys here that are mega ripped up. Once you get a layer on there, getting it off is incredible hard work. They were thin and not so muscled and lean when young then put on muscle and not fat as they worked out.
I've been fat, then tried to cut back like that, and ive never been able to do it. Even when I was running over 50 miles per week marathon training i still wasn't as cut as that.
The body wants a small layer of fat over it, as it is a healthy natural state to be in. To get as lean as that, you are depeleting the bodys natural levels so low its desperate to get back to normal, hance the need to eat very small meals often to prevent it putting it on immediately. Once you got a layer of fat, convincing the body to give it up and go down to danger levels is super tough. Good luck on your challenge!
I've been fat, then tried to cut back like that, and ive never been able to do it. Even when I was running over 50 miles per week marathon training i still wasn't as cut as that.
The body wants a small layer of fat over it, as it is a healthy natural state to be in. To get as lean as that, you are depeleting the bodys natural levels so low its desperate to get back to normal, hance the need to eat very small meals often to prevent it putting it on immediately. Once you got a layer of fat, convincing the body to give it up and go down to danger levels is super tough. Good luck on your challenge!
You are correct to some extent in that, yes, it can be very hard to shift the flab and that some people are more disposed to being fat than others. HOWEVER, it is not something that should stop anyone - You will see results if you train with weights and eat sensibly.
Just in the quote you have given a classic example of how enudrance training/endless cardio does not do the trick. This is why so many people feel let down with the lack of results. Lots of exercise uses energy but if that means your body can gain it from muscle it doesnt need (i.e. chest/triceps when running) it will take it from there.
You must force your body to lose the fat and nothing else. If you partake in resistance training, your body will want to adapt to cope with the resistance and hold the muscle. Energy requirements will then come from fat (hopefully). This is another reason why extended cardio sessions are genreally not as effective as weights or high-intensity-interval training.
I have seen plenty of guys, bulk up, look like blimps but then 3 months down the line they have lost all the fat. Sure, they have lost a bit of muscle due to the rapid dieting. But apporaching it from a long term perspective, there is nothing stoppping you get results.
Hopefully this give you a bit of a boost. My pics are very attainable in that now that I have trained for a few years I am not trying to keep slim. In fact, I probably eat a lot worse that a fair few here and I am geneticly opposed to the body shape I have now (my natural weight is way lower). This makes it harder for me to keep muscle.
In fact, all this has made me vouch to having a go and see what actually trying to lose fat will make me look like - I'll check back in 8 weeks. Proof is in the pudding (or should I say whey shake).
Oh, and when you down about it all, just remember the words from the master himself:
Follow your dreams…you can reach your goals..I'm living proof…Beefcake…BEEFCAKE!
was refering to the open belt mate, not a belly!
We have not had a real belly posted on here! and i doubt after police we will
We have not had a real belly posted on here! and i doubt after police we will
Ha oh yeah, too late in the night now! Tiredness creeping in.
Hey Mr Vibe did your program enhance your eyesight as well!? No need for glasses
How long did it take for you to lose that weight?
First pic I just had specs on and it was taken 11/20/05, second I have contacts in and I took it today. I didn't really have a set diet or plan or anything, I just tried to eat healthy and instead of snacking on cookies and crap, I'd eat oranges and bananas and stuff. I was in wt training at school so I had that every other day, but when that class was over I didn't really lift anymore. Also I drink lots of water and I don't snack as much as I used to. Another good way to lose weight is like buy some expensive denim a size small, then rip off all the tags and shit and throw them away, then you'll be forced to lose weight to fit into them. lol.
First pic I just had specs on and it was taken 11/20/05, second I have contacts in and I took it today. I didn't really have a set diet or plan or anything, I just tried to eat healthy and instead of snacking on cookies and crap, I'd eat oranges and bananas and stuff. I was in wt training at school so I had that every other day, but when that class was over I didn't really lift anymore. Also I drink lots of water and I don't snack as much as I used to.Another good way to lose weight is like buy some expensive denim a size small, then rip off all the tags and shit and throw them away, then you'll be forced to lose weight to fit into them. lol.
buy some really skinny diors like a 29 waist and you're bound to lose weight to fit into them
also, handlethevibe - you weren't even fat in the first pic, look a bit too skinny now imo (no homo)
Esoterica got the theory going!
sure you want carbs after workout, thats kindof essensial SOS.
lol maine. its fake tan. all the way spray tan.
after you've been bulking up and got the proper muscle mass, you just have to keep eating those proteins and make a linear cutting of the carbs.
Essensial fatty acid is also important, from fish, which is better absorbed by the body contra fats from nuts.
ever body is a fine toned machine, so meal plans has to be individually written for optimale results. and to do this shii over the internt is kindof hard, or mabye also dangerous.
its important to know everything about the person, like weakness, bloodtype etc.
anyhow, whan I can give you is easy guide lines.
Write what you guys eat throughout a normal day, and I'll check it out.
lol Fläsket!
yea, chest cleared up fine after I quit eating protein powder. suppments sucks, naturalia all the way
EDIT:
what are your goals guys?
skinny like a diore bloke, or a healty definition of a male?
lol. just read "just buy some skinny jeans and you'll get remined not to eat".
males are supposed to be bigger than the grrrl imo.
but hey, who am i to judge !
sure you want carbs after workout, thats kindof essensial SOS.
lol maine. its fake tan. all the way spray tan.
after you've been bulking up and got the proper muscle mass, you just have to keep eating those proteins and make a linear cutting of the carbs.
Essensial fatty acid is also important, from fish, which is better absorbed by the body contra fats from nuts.
ever body is a fine toned machine, so meal plans has to be individually written for optimale results. and to do this shii over the internt is kindof hard, or mabye also dangerous.
its important to know everything about the person, like weakness, bloodtype etc.
anyhow, whan I can give you is easy guide lines.
Write what you guys eat throughout a normal day, and I'll check it out.
lol Fläsket!
yea, chest cleared up fine after I quit eating protein powder. suppments sucks, naturalia all the way
EDIT:
what are your goals guys?
skinny like a diore bloke, or a healty definition of a male?
lol. just read "just buy some skinny jeans and you'll get remined not to eat".
males are supposed to be bigger than the grrrl imo.
but hey, who am i to judge !
Haha, funny thread. Count me in as well by the way.
Police maybe you could let me know if there is something glaring out at you which I should change. Appreciate any help!
The problem with me is that im a really small build, with hardly any fat…but once I start doing some workouts my muscles get 'quite' well defined and can get 'quite' large without doing all that much…if that makes sense!
I eat…
BREAKFAST
1 Bowl of granola serial with one apple + one banana (Same every day)
LUNCH
Usually quite different things but never have as much as I would like as I tend to be in a rush…either Humus and roast vegetable baqute(local deli), omlet+backed beans…soup…toast+peanutbutter or whatever….I also eat quite a bit of tuna/mayo.
DINNER
Usually eat until I can't eat no more…tends to be quite healthy, range of food, carbs, protein, vegetables etc. Tends be balanced. (thanks to mum)
At the moment im about 6ft and weigh 10.7 stone (
)
I dont do any sport other than walking, which I do quite a lot. I don't go to the gym either but I do (started again since this thread) chin ups, press ups, sit ups..and have some bar with a spring in the middle that I bend to build up my pecs.
P.S- I'll post some pics a bit later.
rgds,
max.
Police maybe you could let me know if there is something glaring out at you which I should change. Appreciate any help!
The problem with me is that im a really small build, with hardly any fat…but once I start doing some workouts my muscles get 'quite' well defined and can get 'quite' large without doing all that much…if that makes sense!
I eat…
BREAKFAST
1 Bowl of granola serial with one apple + one banana (Same every day)
LUNCH
Usually quite different things but never have as much as I would like as I tend to be in a rush…either Humus and roast vegetable baqute(local deli), omlet+backed beans…soup…toast+peanutbutter or whatever….I also eat quite a bit of tuna/mayo.
DINNER
Usually eat until I can't eat no more…tends to be quite healthy, range of food, carbs, protein, vegetables etc. Tends be balanced. (thanks to mum)
At the moment im about 6ft and weigh 10.7 stone (
)I dont do any sport other than walking, which I do quite a lot. I don't go to the gym either but I do (started again since this thread) chin ups, press ups, sit ups..and have some bar with a spring in the middle that I bend to build up my pecs.
P.S- I'll post some pics a bit later.
rgds,
max.
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