General Discussion: Grumpy Young Men


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stelfox
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8488 posts since 11/3/09

1 Feb 2010 10:31
It can be quite annoying, I've had it and stupidly not all have the all london thing. End up having to go on the wikipedia pages of where ever I'm going to find out which airlines to which routes.

Never had to pay to sit next to mates Puzzled
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

1 Feb 2010 11:09
Fly Thomas Cook charges £6 per person for seats together, although their published price was the most honest/accurate, but I didn't find anywhere else that did the same

All booked now Smiling
nick2
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7231 posts since 18/2/09

1 Feb 2010 11:39
I always use this to find out where you can fly from/to

http://www.flightmapping.com/Maps/

so you go to Italy, then hover over Venice and it shows you where you can fly from

http://www.flightmapping.com/maps/files/europe/italy.asp

robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

1 Feb 2010 12:29
I ended up using www.who-flies-where.com but it's a joke when the flights websites don't give you this info
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

1 Feb 2010 12:31
ive got what you meant now mayn and see what you mean, but its easier to just check ryanair, easyjet and monarch for flights for me if its not long haul.
but what is 'destinations repopulated' again, still lost on what that means.
andymakesglasses
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20693 posts since 26/1/06

1 Feb 2010 12:33
I was going to post something similar yesterday, with easyjet it now asks you if you want to take hold luggage - I'm going to Italy for a week, there's a pretty good chance I will want to Laughing out loud

I'd much rather all the cheapo flight sites quoted you a price including all the extras, then you could remove anything you didn't need and it would only become cheaper.

edit: destinations repopulate:

If you populate a list, it means to write out a list of information - in this case a list of destinations.

So when you go to easyjet's website the drop-down menu is "populated" with a list of all their destinations from any airport.

If you select your departure airport (eg Edinburgh) then the list should refresh (ie repopulate) with only their destinations you can fly to from Edinburgh.
R
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13333 posts since 17/5/03

1 Feb 2010 12:35
Noble Locks wrote: ive got what you meant now mayn and see what you mean, but its easier to just check ryanair, easyjet and monarch for flights for me if its not long haul.
but what is 'destinations repopulated' again, still lost on what that means.

Laughing out loud
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

1 Feb 2010 12:43
Noble Locks wrote: ive got what you meant now mayn and see what you mean, but its easier to just check ryanair, easyjet and monarch for flights for me if its not long haul.
but what is 'destinations repopulated' again, still lost on what that means.

When you go onto the flights website it will have a list of say 100 destinations which they fly to (from all airports). When you select the airport you are flying from all the places you can fly to should refresh and be narrowed down.

If I select to fly from East Midlands why is Paphos still on the list of destinations I can select if there are no flights from East Midlands airport to Paphos? Basically you have to guess or work out by process of elimination where you can go
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

1 Feb 2010 12:44
oh yeah, got it. so simple but so alarmingly not done. must be a reason for it tho surely. otherwise youd have j600 knocking on their doors a hundred times a day saying 'ill do it now in a day, pay me'.
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

1 Feb 2010 13:03
well surely j600 can become a millionaire overnight instead of in a year or two then if he contacts all the shit ones. cos i can tell you from experience that they will not refuse upgrading their site if it gains them more sales. not one of them would say no if its humanly possible.
andymakesglasses
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20693 posts since 26/1/06

1 Feb 2010 13:09
I don't know if it's laziness / being out of touch, or if it's more a case of trying to convince you to fly with them even though they don't offer exactly what you want.

eg you want to fly from East Midlands airport to Paphos, which they don't offer, but maybe their thinking is that you might consider travelling to London or Manchester to get your flight to Paphos - ie they don't want to rule out a sale to you by narrowing down the options to what is available from your preferred airport.

Whereas in reality most people (I presume) would want to fly from their local airport.
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

1 Feb 2010 13:14
I thought about that but none of the websites I used came up with a message saying "We don't have any flights from East Midlands to Paphos but we do have these alternatives". If they had something like that I would accept they had thought about the user experience, but all you get is an error message or "No flights available on the dates selected" and you just get frustrated and close the window and go looking on another website
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

1 Feb 2010 13:14
The reason is the designers of their websites are lazy and don't think from the users perspective, and the big bosses who pay for their sites to be designed are out of touch and don't know what their customers want. There can't be any other reason because there are sites out there that do get it right so it's not as if it isn't possible.

In the last 10 years user friendliness on websites has improved so much but these flights websites seem to be years behind everybody else. When I first created my website I made it thinking about my own experience shopping online and it pisses me off when other websites, especially ones with huge budgets, don't bother. It's a kick in the teeth.
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

1 Feb 2010 13:15
im pretty certain there is a reason they do it as well, even tho its annoying as fuck, they do it to suit them im sure.
robii
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18857 posts since 8/9/06

1 Feb 2010 13:23
Well they're losing business and who wants to do that? They lost my business because of it because I don't shop with anybody that pisses me off. Hate those fucking confused.com adverts so I got a car insurance quote from them and then went and found a better deal elsewhere just so I had the satisfaction of knowing I got a good price and knowing I didn't have to put business their way. I know that makes me different from most people but I still don't think making your website difficult to use will help you retain customers
stelfox
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8488 posts since 11/3/09

1 Feb 2010 14:45
Yeah but most people who are looking for the cheapest possible flight from an airport somewhere nearish them will probably check every website, arsing around with the system as much as possible just to get it for a 5er cheaper.

Stelios and o'leary know you'll use them if they're cheaper and go from near you, they dont mind if their website looks like shit. Ryanair don't seem to care that half their planes have the bloody ivory coast flag on them Roll Eyes
andymakesglasses
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20693 posts since 26/1/06

1 Feb 2010 15:14
Farrell wrote: Ryanair don't seem to care that half their planes have the bloody ivory coast flag on them Roll Eyes

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/flags-on-ryanair-planes-are-the-right-way-around-84456.html

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/letters/2010/0113/1224262210380.html

Don't know if it's bollocks or not - maybe Homer can confirm?
Larry
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1980 posts since 9/9/03

1 Feb 2010 15:23
…continues to deter the world’s tourists from visiting Ireland with its “arseways” policy of hitting them with a €10 tourist tax…

Head of Communications,

Ryanair


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfIY24BErBE&hl=en_US&fs=1&;


Ryanairs corporate communications.

burny
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6125 posts since 25/5/06

2 Feb 2010 07:33
poohat wrote: hey man thats pretty mean…………….
This really annoys me. It's actually correct grammar to only use three points, and they should be used with tighter tracking than just three points in a row. Like this… (On a mac it's Alt + ; ) Really grates on me.
Also, when people use it in a 'im after sympathy……..' sort of way.
i.e. Worst: Girlfriend left me…………….
Evil
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Crudeoyle
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965 posts since 2/9/08

2 Feb 2010 12:52
burny wrote:
poohat wrote: hey man thats pretty mean…………….
This really annoys me. It's actually correct grammar to only use three points, and they should be used with tighter tracking than just three points in a row. Like this… (On a mac it's Alt + ; ) Really grates on me.
Also, when people use it in a 'im after sympathy……..' sort of way.
i.e. Worst: Girlfriend left me…………….
Evil
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THE BEATMONKEYS

Great thing to rage at. I get pissed when people don't use real language in texts and on facebook. We live in the age of unlimited texts, write the whole message.