Menswear: Hanto's JMM thread


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Seventyfour
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9388 posts since 6/10/05

19 Aug 2021 14:00
What are the bottom right in the top pic Hanto?
Hanto
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3160 posts since 30/11/09

posted 19 Aug 2021 14:07, edited 19 Aug 2021 14:07
NigelBenn wrote: You boss.

No love for the Taos?

I'd love the Root Beer but very much needle in a haystack stuation.

Seventyfour wrote: What are the bottom right in the top pic Hanto?

Kobo in Fade. Just gone back and added details. Smiling
discobobulated
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1056 posts since 21/4/10

19 Aug 2021 14:23
Got a pair of Taos arriving tomorrow. Looked at the Kobo but decided they were too big for me.
deuce
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14051 posts since 21/1/08

19 Aug 2021 14:24
Hanto the FUK heavy hitter, putting all us broke boys to shame Cool
EssexBoyII
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7174 posts since 5/6/07

19 Aug 2021 14:28
Na Hanto should give up really. Disco the new king now. Hanto scared to splurge on the Valdes whilst Disco has been kinging it up with the Lakota, Patterson and Kenai down in a few weeks
Hanto
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3160 posts since 30/11/09

19 Aug 2021 14:36
EssexBoyII wrote: Na Hanto should give up really. Disco the new king now. Hanto scared to splurge on the Valdes whilst Disco has been kinging it up with the Lakota, Patterson and Kenai down in a few weeks

Laughing out loud
discobobulated
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1056 posts since 21/4/10

19 Aug 2021 15:54

Arrived early. Love them. If they're good enough for Brad Pitt, they're good enough for me. Great shape and totally different to any of my other shades.
swede
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9869 posts since 21/3/09

19 Aug 2021 15:54
deuce wrote: Hanto the FUK heavy hitter, putting all us broke boys to shame Cool

shagger aint he Cool
Hanto
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3160 posts since 30/11/09

19 Aug 2021 16:43
discobobulated wrote:
Arrived early. Love them. If they're good enough for Brad Pitt, they're good enough for me. Great shape and totally different to any of my other shades.
The root beer of them is definitely a grail, but for everyone. They are tempting. Which colour is that; looks noir but not sure!
discobobulated
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1056 posts since 21/4/10

posted 19 Aug 2021 18:45, edited 19 Aug 2021 18:45
Just bog standard noir. Think I prefer these to the Kobo. I think the Kobo would be too big for me and unsure about the rounded edge of the frame. The Taos has a more interesting shape, I feel.
Hanto
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3160 posts since 30/11/09

19 Aug 2021 18:49
Yeah the Kobo is just an interesting frame all round but is definitely hard to pull off. I'm waiting to see what the Root Beer looks like but the Fade is too light a lense etc. We'll see.
fouineoursb
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1601 posts since 12/11/06

19 Aug 2021 18:51
andymakesglasses wrote: I think some people are confusing slim / thick material with wide / deep fronts.

The people asking for small frames are generally talking about overall width, not how chunky the frames are. If you look on the JMM site each model is given a size category (small, medium and wide).

Also the lens and bridge widths are included. Remember that the overall width of the frame is dictated by the width of the endpieces (the bits that stick out to the side and meet the temples). Some models have extra long ones, some are shorter, but you can estimate a frame's width by adding the bridge width plus two lens widths and then 10mm for each endpiece.

So for the Zephirin for example:

endpiece 10mm + eye size 44mm + bridge 25mm + eye size 44mm + endpiece 10mm = 129mm

https://jacquesmariemage.com/product/948/

129mm is quite narrow for a men's frame. There may be some margin of error in the estimated endpiece width of course. An average male optical frame width is usually in the region of 132 to 136mm.

If you Google this phrase it will show you the frames that JMM classes as small:

site: jacquesmariemage.com SIZING: SMALL

Question for Andy most probably:

Most of JMM are so limited that you can't try them on before they get sold out, I really like the look of the hitchcock frame but I can't find any retailer in Switzerland who has them in stock.

Is there a simple method to make sure a pair will fit properly by comparing the size wiuth another pair I already own and that fit well?
I like the fit of the Cutler and Gross 1290 (it says 46 24 inside)
The hitchcock says: Lens Width 43, Bridge 26 , Temple 148
andymakesglasses
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20594 posts since 26/1/06

20 Aug 2021 08:00
Short answer, not really unfortunately.

The quoted measurements can give you a guide but you don't know the endpiece width and therefore overall width of the frames you're interested in (unless you can find those numbers). The fit is also affected by a number of other factors including specific shape and material thicknesses.

For example say the overall external width of your frame that fits is 144mm and you find out that the frame you're interested in is also 144mm then you might think it would fit the same. However if one has thicker temple material than the other then the interior overall width will be smaller. Similarly if one has temples that curve out slightly as they go back to the ear but another has temples that go straight back or even angle in slightly then they will have different interior widths at the widest point (although temple curve can often be adjusted by an optician).

The bridge measurement is the distance between the lenses. This doesn't account for variations in the amount of material around the nose. So on a super slim frame the rim around the lens by the nose could be as little as 1.8mm but on a super chunky frame it might be 3 or 4mm. If the bridge measurement is the same then obviously there will be a big difference in the actual size of the bridge aperture or nose "hole" on each frame.

Also the shape of the bridge aperture can have an affect on how the frame fits and sits on the nose. A lens / rim that curves strongly outwards towards the nose will fit differently to a lens / rim that has a straighter line. Also the bridge measurement can be misleading in this regard. You can have a very narrow bridge measurement where the lenses are very close together at the top but if the lenses curve away steeply from the nose then there will be plenty of room down the bottom of the nose (think of a classic aviator shape for example). But if you imagine a squarer lens shape the lens edge will come down much straighter and be narrower at the bottom of the nose than the aviator example.

You could scale photos of the two frames in Photoshop using the measurements you know and compare them that way. The Hitchcock has a wider bridge than the 1290 but you'd need to pay attention to the comparative rim thicknesses next to the nose to try and judge if the nose fit will be similar.
fouineoursb
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1601 posts since 12/11/06

20 Aug 2021 11:58
Cool thank you Andy.

Frames like Molino are too squared/rectangular (and wide?) on my face.
In addition, I have a pretty wide bridge nose, so glasses with narrow opening sit high (covering my eyebrowns)

The relatively large bridge opening of the Hitchcock makes them appealing, but I need to try them on first.

andymakesglasses wrote: Short answer, not really unfortunately.

The quoted measurements can give you a guide but you don't know the endpiece width and therefore overall width of the frames you're interested in (unless you can find those numbers). The fit is also affected by a number of other factors including specific shape and material thicknesses.

For example say the overall external width of your frame that fits is 144mm and you find out that the frame you're interested in is also 144mm then you might think it would fit the same. However if one has thicker temple material than the other then the interior overall width will be smaller. Similarly if one has temples that curve out slightly as they go back to the ear but another has temples that go straight back or even angle in slightly then they will have different interior widths at the widest point (although temple curve can often be adjusted by an optician).

The bridge measurement is the distance between the lenses. This doesn't account for variations in the amount of material around the nose. So on a super slim frame the rim around the lens by the nose could be as little as 1.8mm but on a super chunky frame it might be 3 or 4mm. If the bridge measurement is the same then obviously there will be a big difference in the actual size of the bridge aperture or nose "hole" on each frame.

Also the shape of the bridge aperture can have an affect on how the frame fits and sits on the nose. A lens / rim that curves strongly outwards towards the nose will fit differently to a lens / rim that has a straighter line. Also the bridge measurement can be misleading in this regard. You can have a very narrow bridge measurement where the lenses are very close together at the top but if the lenses curve away steeply from the nose then there will be plenty of room down the bottom of the nose (think of a classic aviator shape for example). But if you imagine a squarer lens shape the lens edge will come down much straighter and be narrower at the bottom of the nose than the aviator example.

You could scale photos of the two frames in Photoshop using the measurements you know and compare them that way. The Hitchcock has a wider bridge than the 1290 but you'd need to pay attention to the comparative rim thicknesses next to the nose to try and judge if the nose fit will be similar.
jacko198
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547 posts since 23/10/09

20 Aug 2021 22:38
Dare I ask about prescription lenses for these? Do they do their own or are they just generic replacement optician made lenses?
ismvil
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1870 posts since 16/9/11

21 Aug 2021 06:45
Just your regular reglazing options afaik Jacko
andymakesglasses
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20594 posts since 26/1/06

21 Aug 2021 08:23
I'm not sure what you mean by "generic replacement optician made lenses". Most opticians outsource glazing to external labs. Very few brands will offer glazing themselves.

The quality of the lenses is entirely dependent on what the optician offers and what you pay. There are cheaper unbranded lenses through good quality lenses from the likes of Zeiss and Hoya to mineral lenses by Barberini.
ismvil
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1870 posts since 16/9/11

21 Aug 2021 09:47
Anyone who’s after the JMM stocklist at Dickens Eye Clinic can PM me, it’s a chunky excel file
Sumbeam
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995 posts since 27/1/11

23 Aug 2021 15:39
Bought the Jax in Tempest, really pleased with them Cool

Hanto
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3160 posts since 30/11/09

23 Aug 2021 16:33
My favourite frame I think. Really versitile. Cool