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Foxtrot
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2477 posts since 8/4/09

3 May 2010 20:07
Any one heard swagger jacker diss to jayz? I doubt it puts his reputation or credibility on the line but still raises eye brows.
stelfox
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8488 posts since 11/3/09

3 May 2010 20:13
No fair enough Jordan I get you and you're right, just after I mentioned him before and got told how bad he is Laughing out loud Everyone making a complete list would kill this thread too

Wish detox would drop, a read ages ago he had like a hundred songs recorded or something, and a zillion names have been mentioned saying they're on it, including a few stinkers iirc

The only thing I've heard from jay-z I really liekd was the grey album, need to give reasonable doubt a good listening to though.
Hi-Definition
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1703 posts since 6/12/08

3 May 2010 20:14
On the Jay remix front it's all about Jaydiohead, check it out. Cool
deuce
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14143 posts since 21/1/08

3 May 2010 20:17
Detox won't drop, no Laughing out loud at least I highly doubt, if it does it won't be an official dre album, more like a collection of artists he works with, eminem, fiddy game etc, along with himself ofcourse!
The thing with jayz, he never really went for the grimy thug gangster image, he always tried to portray he was a bigger part in it all, and was a step up from the corner sellers

at the end of the day, everyone has different tastes, and no one can possibly have given every artist enough chance to make up a good opinion on their work. You can be put off artists instantly, from just one track or a 10sec snippet of a track. Especially in music, people will always deny that they like more mainstream artists, an instead mention their more favourite 'underground' artists, hence why 50 cent hasn't been mentioned, yet get rich or die trying was an instant classic. No mentions for eminem too, because no one wants to be associated with his commercial whiney voice stage, whereas his first album infinite would make any 'true' or 'underground' fan cream in their CKs
stelfox
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8488 posts since 11/3/09

3 May 2010 20:23
Slim shady lp was i think the first hip hop album I ever bought and I still think it's fucking brilliant. marshal mathers was also quite good
captainwasteman
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321 posts since 6/3/09

3 May 2010 20:27
Ah, I'm a fair bit past the whole thing of not wanting to be associated with ____, nowadays.

Jay-Z's still one of my favourite rappers. I've liked the majority of his albums, for the most part. They've all had good songs, and some bad ones, but I can at least understand the reasons behind a lot of what he puts on the records. He's a smart man.

I don't really like Eminem anymore, just because of that fucking voice he raps in now. His voice changed around the time of The Eminem Show, and has never returned to normal, and I just find it near unlistenable. But Infinite wasn't a good album either. He was obviously a talented rapper, just very amateur and hadn't refined his style yet. I'd say the best representation of his talent was the stuff he did around the Slim Shady EP/LP days. Phenomenal talent, pretty much gone to waste though.
King_Kong
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1672 posts since 20/10/09

3 May 2010 20:34
eminem is a genius i reckon, one of the sickest rappers about still.
For me wu tang clan is still consistantly gold for me and can always go back and listen to 36 chambers time and time again.
been no love for modern hiphop though, i personally think kid cudis mixtape then album were both great. still listen to them a lot.
also i know its at the other end of the hip hop spectrum to wu tang etc but asher roths album has some good tracks on it, really like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oma5ZHMq-Ok&hl=en_GB&fs=1&;
DuffMan
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14389 posts since 21/2/07

3 May 2010 20:40
Are you serious? Such a dull song.
Soultimate
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3356 posts since 8/9/08

3 May 2010 20:44
eminem has fallen off but he's still got it in him…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwyOfqbP8JU&hl=en_GB&fs=1&;
skip to 3mins
Hi-Definition
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1703 posts since 6/12/08

3 May 2010 20:45
Can't look for it right now but Asher Roth had a good remix of A Milli, so did Jay. Never listened to Roths album, didn't like that College song
King_Kong
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1672 posts since 20/10/09

3 May 2010 20:47
yes?
i like his stuff, i wouldn't call it dull. just diffrent from the usual hip hop i'd listen to.
i think his lyrics aren't great though, needs some work, just think its a good song in general.
Hi-Definition
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1703 posts since 6/12/08

3 May 2010 20:48
Also on the Jay front his freestyle with Big L back in the day is Jawdropping! even if L destroyed him

"If they don't let me in heaven I raise hell, 'til it's heaven"
King_Kong
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1672 posts since 20/10/09

3 May 2010 20:48
Hi-Definition wrote: Can't look for it right now but Asher Roth had a good remix of A Milli, so did Jay. Never listened to Roths album, didn't like that College song
yeah, the college song is kinda gimicky. did an alright remix of roc boys too.
captainwasteman
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321 posts since 6/3/09

3 May 2010 20:55
Thanks for that video, never seen that. The definitive recent Eminem freestyle video though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9BB09uoAlk&hl=en_GB&fs=1&;

Watch the whole thing. Premier on the breaks, Mos Def rips it, Black Thought is nice, Eminem just destroys the whole thing. When he's on like that, there just isn't a rapper on his level.
stelfox
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8488 posts since 11/3/09

3 May 2010 21:14
There's quite a few clips on youtube of eminem at scribble jams, inlcuding one where he droped the 'you ain't gonna sell 2 copies if you press a double album' line found on slim shady lp. So good, that above is awesome, rhymning so many parts of a line

Jordan wrote: You can be put off artists instantly, from just one track or a 10sec snippet of a track.

I did this with asher roth, and I will never take it back.
Rez
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8916 posts since 5/4/09

3 May 2010 21:21
On the more wanky side of the Jay-Z remix someone did a pretty good mix of it with Pavement.
Soultimate
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3356 posts since 8/9/08

3 May 2010 21:29
nice cw, another amazing verse..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL6wTfTc-uA&hl=en_GB&fs=1&;
stelfox
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8488 posts since 11/3/09

3 May 2010 21:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYGep0zPMbA&hl=en_GB&fs=1&;
Rafzahn
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108 posts since 6/11/09

3 May 2010 22:45
black thought = numero uno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ530KsL1cw&hl=de_DE&fs=1&;
stelfox
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8488 posts since 11/3/09

4 May 2010 13:13
BLAW

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.thehollywoodreporter.com/world-trade-center-writer-joins-nwa-film

Laughing out loud NWA Film, I hadn't heard about this before