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themistake
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10517 posts since 20/2/06

27 Dec 2012 16:30
Sorry I'm confused…

A gb is a gb right?
Ssd or traditional hd, one has 128 and one has 500
walnuts
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2460 posts since 17/6/06

27 Dec 2012 16:51
SSD (128gb) is more expensive than the traditional one (500gb) for obvious reasons, it's solid state, no moving parts, faster, requires less power etc. The retina comes with SSD, which is why the price is so much higher, plus newer screen and processor etc.

Apple would like to make you think SSD is stupidly expensive, it isn't really, you can pick up OCZ 120gb SSD drive for around £70. But Apple being Apple, you can't just simply make the upgrade yourself, and it's becoming near impossible now with the recent iterations of the Macbook Pros.
Serbia
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4932 posts since 22/3/06

27 Dec 2012 16:53
But storage wise it's still 120 gb just performs faster?
Lyall
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1857 posts since 1/6/10

27 Dec 2012 17:03
Yeah, less storage.
themistake
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10517 posts since 20/2/06

27 Dec 2012 17:15
the only time ive used ssd's is when rendering full hd stereoscopic movie files, layering up to 5 of them at the same time.
I'll take a 500gb hd drive over a 128gb ssd any day for a MBP.

The pricing just seems ludicrous for the two models. 50% difference.
skream
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983 posts since 23/10/11

27 Dec 2012 17:24
go for the standard macbook pro and buy your own ssd and ram; will come up much cheaper and faster.
can hardly tell the difference between the retina and standard screens on the 13", anyway.
Ju
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1267 posts since 5/9/09

28 Dec 2012 16:17
skream wrote: go for the standard macbook pro and buy your own ssd and ram; will come up much cheaper and faster.
can hardly tell the difference between the retina and standard screens on the 13", anyway.
Cosco, the 13" non retina has a terrible resolution, 1280x800, which is less than the 13" air has had for years.
nick2
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7231 posts since 18/2/09

28 Dec 2012 16:21
You've got to hand it to Apple though, people still buy their stuff even though it flies in the face of common sense.
bill
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4905 posts since 5/8/09

28 Dec 2012 16:43
Just my opinion but I wouldn't consider spending over a grand on a laptop without an SSD.
themistake
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10517 posts since 20/2/06

28 Dec 2012 17:00
Why not?
nick2
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7231 posts since 18/2/09

28 Dec 2012 17:03
Don't SSD's have a limited life span also if used for frequent read/writes like it would if it were you main "drive" ?
EeePee
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295 posts since 5/3/11

28 Dec 2012 17:10
My MBA feels so much faster for day-to-day tasks compared to my iMac, despite being vastly less powerful, purely because of the SSD.

I will never buy a HDD-equipped computer again (unless paired with an SSD, a la Fusion Drive).

And the normal MacBook Pro even has a 5400rpm HDD, so it's even relatively slow for a HDD (7200rpm would be better), so the difference would be even greater.
walnuts
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2460 posts since 17/6/06

28 Dec 2012 17:12
nick2 wrote: Don't SSD's have a limited life span also if used for frequent read/writes like it would if it were you main "drive" ?

4-5 years I think?
nick2
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7231 posts since 18/2/09

28 Dec 2012 17:22
walnuts wrote:
nick2 wrote: Don't SSD's have a limited life span also if used for frequent read/writes like it would if it were you main "drive" ?

4-5 years I think?

I suppose it depends on the amount of hammer it gets also.

I guess you need to think are you doing I/O or processing intensive work, if the latter then the storage medium isn't all that relevent.
bill
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4905 posts since 5/8/09

28 Dec 2012 17:33
I don't know about the lifespan of an SSD, googling gives varying answers, some say a lifetime, some say it depends on the type of memory, some say it depends on how many writes etc etc

Regardless, it will last much longer than your HDD, It's totally silent, uses less power, produces less heat, isn't prone to failure like a HDD and is much faster in day to day use.

I've had loads of HDD's fail of me over the years. Now that Apple design their computers in such a way that you literally cannot replace parts without a degree in engineering I prefer not to have a mechanical drive in there that is much more likely to fail so I don't suffer the embarrassment of having to take it to some expert to repair and risk them finding all my educational materials.
Jake Unkutt
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2844 posts since 2/3/04

29 Dec 2012 05:39
Thinking about waiting another two months until they update the MBPs before buying one, but I'm planning to install my own SSD in it to save a few quid.
Just a bit worried that they may make it unupgradeable like they have done on the retinas…seems to be the way Apple are heading these days…:/
Might be better off getting one now?
themistake
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10517 posts since 20/2/06

29 Dec 2012 09:26
As I said before, I'm fully aware of the pros and cons of ssd's but for the price of an 600gb on a retina display mbp is £2150 compared to the same spec non retina 500gb HHD mbp.
Is there really £1150 in difference?

For that price I can buy a 27" Thunderbolt Display and an external SSD the size if a house.
2925mark
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1998 posts since 18/10/07

29 Dec 2012 09:37
bill wrote: so I don't suffer the embarrassment of having to take it to some expert to repair and risk them finding all my educational materials.


Hahaha - anatomy/medicine undergrad, you must be presumably Eye-wink
pops71
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24 posts since 5/11/11

29 Dec 2012 11:33
2925mark wrote:
bill wrote: so I don't suffer the embarrassment of having to take it to some expert to repair and risk them finding all my educational materials.


Hahaha - anatomy/medicine undergrad, you must be presumably Eye-wink

Gynaecologist perchance?
Hello World
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12100 posts since 7/3/05

29 Dec 2012 13:14
Last chance to get an upgrade able MacBook Pro, scrap retina and get an external screen and external thunderbolt drive. Unless you are editing photo / video there is no need for it.