General Discussion: I have 15k(ish) to invest - please advise me!


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Trent
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1668 posts since 18/1/09

21 Dec 2014 06:38
Back to thinking about investment again. Looking to shift cash out of my account over the next four months prior to the end of the tax year. Got about 15k at the moment and the new NISA arrangement suits that but wannt to explore other options. Not sure I'm set on another mortgage on a property until I understand what will come from my tax-return for 2014/15.
Forper
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1662 posts since 29/1/13

21 Dec 2014 08:16
put it all into w)taps and Jordans like I did
Trent
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1668 posts since 18/1/09

21 Dec 2014 08:43
Good point. I should just buy a Rolex.
JustinCredible
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1976 posts since 11/6/08

21 Dec 2014 09:32
Set up a share trading account and transfer in a couple of grand and see how you get on, start off with 75% worth of relatively safe shares (maybe some retailers you expect to do well over xmas / some companies you have some knowledge of) and 25% of more speculative. It's as good an investment as any and is interesting, even if you pick absolute dog shares you'll still have something left at the end of it.
Trent
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1668 posts since 18/1/09

21 Dec 2014 10:09
Thanks JC. Any particular share trading accounts that you recommend? I'm a UK expat by the way.
EssexBoyII
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4318 posts since 5/6/07

21 Dec 2014 11:01
I would just stick the lot in a tracker fund prob. One that tracks the s&p 500 as europes a little shaky. Tracker funds are minimal risk. I've seen about a 10% return on my investment tracking s&p and the ftse
JustinCredible
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1976 posts since 11/6/08

21 Dec 2014 11:07
I'm not sure which one tbh mate as I use one that is linked to the share save scheme we have at work. Ultimately, they make their money from you paying a fee for each trade you make and the fees vary depending on how much you trade (i.e. big hitters pay less per transaction % wise). Have a look at your online banking, most banks have a facility to set one up then check on google that it's not rape prices per transaction.
toof_ake
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1003 posts since 23/8/09

21 Dec 2014 17:32
Share trading borderline pointless unless you know what you're doing. I reckon most people end up breaking even or slightly down over the mid term. People that swear by them are usually people who've been in for a year or two and done well.
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115 posts since 15/4/14

21 Dec 2014 19:40
TD Waterhouse or III pretty much cheapest brokers for trading. Fee should be less than £10 per trade and then stamp duty has to be paid wherever you are. If you are looking to sit on them for a few years (3+) then you should make a decent return but of course nothing is guaranteed. I have been trading few grand each share for a few years now and easily beaten return I would get on any bank account, averaging 20% return a year. My suggestion would be a solid fund or tracker for 50%-75% of the fund invested (some kind of infra fund or tracker for the big indexes) and then some shares to play with a bit seeking higher capital growth. My advice would be to always have rules such as selling if your investment is down 30% or only investing in dividend paying shares. Be prepared to be down some of the time and up some of the time and never put all your eggs in one basket, despite how good some paper/forum/investment adviser may say a share is.
Trent
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1668 posts since 18/1/09

22 Dec 2014 08:19
Thanks chaps. Will do some homework and report back.
Seventyfour
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7807 posts since 6/10/05

23 Feb 2015 18:21
Any one bought silver bars? Is there anyway to get round the Vat? Seems daft buying it as an investment, paying 20% vat on top of the actual value
EssexBoyII
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4318 posts since 5/6/07

23 Feb 2015 18:56
Don't you swerve the VAT if you buy them in the form of tender I.s silver coins?
mistamilan
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5 posts since 5/5/09

23 Feb 2015 20:02
Buy a few k worth of bitcoins. We'll all use virtual money in the near future. Upside is huge. Some silver couldn't hurt either.
EssexBoyII
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4318 posts since 5/6/07

23 Feb 2015 20:22
mistamilan wrote: Buy a few k worth of bitcoins. We'll all use virtual money in the near future. Upside is huge. Some silver couldn't hurt either.

Don't do this
Seventyfour
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7807 posts since 6/10/05

23 Feb 2015 21:12
EssexBoyII wrote: Don't you swerve the VAT if you buy them in the form of tender I.s silver coins?
By the looks of it you don't have to pay vat on any profit you make from them, but you still have to pay vat on your initial purchase
EssexBoyII
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4318 posts since 5/6/07

23 Feb 2015 21:28
They don't like giving up their pound of flesh do they. I was thinking the other day when making a purchase and seeing how much of it was VAT and surely just us cunts are basically funding a small area of Bradford I reckon
Olismallz
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849 posts since 7/2/12

23 Feb 2015 21:35
bit off topic but i was messing about on ebay the other day and saw what appears to be a great selling opportunity. Smart TV boxes, not everyone can afford to buy a fully integrated smart tv so these things are the next best alternative. readily available to buy from china on the cheap, and retail for 50-60/box on ebay. bought 10 for 22/unit, will report back when they arrive
EssexBoyII
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4318 posts since 5/6/07

23 Feb 2015 21:41
That sounds like hard graft for little reward
figurine
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4550 posts since 14/5/07

23 Feb 2015 21:53
Allow it, he buys his suits in Primark so 20ish profit per box ain't too bad
EVERS
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8580 posts since 2/7/06

23 Feb 2015 22:05