Menswear: Indie Menswear - Support your locals


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crutch
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464 posts since 22/11/12

1 May 2020 05:19
Working class heroes - in Cumbria
carl lewis
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23958 posts since 14/10/04

2 May 2020 05:01
https://www.manifesto-clothing.co.uk/
Dreep
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1481 posts since 29/7/08

posted 2 May 2020 05:19, edited 2 May 2020 05:19
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absolute hate this shop in my town, staff of 20 year olds thinking they're the bees knees and constantly just stare and follow you around.
Used to get them questioning my gear before they started working there but now they look down upon the non-accepted spiceboy attire.
carl lewis
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23958 posts since 14/10/04

2 May 2020 06:05
Dreep, where you been?


Site upgrade is nice though.
MattC
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797 posts since 20/3/12

2 May 2020 08:53
Dreep wrote: /

absolute hate this shop in my town, staff of 20 year olds thinking they're the bees knees and constantly just stare and follow you around.
Used to get them questioning my gear before they started working there but now they look down upon the non-accepted spiceboy attire.
Agree
swiftus
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1240 posts since 1/7/09

posted 2 May 2020 09:43, edited 2 May 2020 09:43
I started a thread about this a while ago, I think the overall view back then was price was king, and people didn't have any loyalty to shops. Good to see that things have shifted a little

EDIT: found the link

https://www.fuk.co.uk/threads/independent-vs-big-business-menswear-shops/1/
illwill
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4060 posts since 17/5/04

posted 2 May 2020 09:47, edited 2 May 2020 09:47
I think it's due to tastes too.

The buyers at the independents are generally big fans of the brands and have a keen eye for particularly special pieces.

At the big retailers a buyer will just be going by what they can shift most of.
Blofeld
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217 posts since 30/12/15

2 May 2020 10:18
Dreep wrote: /

absolute hate this shop in my town, staff of 20 year olds thinking they're the bees knees and constantly just stare and follow you around.
Used to get them questioning my gear before they started working there but now they look down upon the non-accepted spiceboy attire.

never been to Manifesto but I feel this so much. makes me laugh though really, a shop assistant wearing £300 trainers sneering at my beat up Vans (every time I've ever gone into END). Makes places like Kafka (when the store is actually open) so refreshing; you can just go in and have a conversation.
Crackajack
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7665 posts since 21/4/05

2 May 2020 10:25
John Simons, Kafka (including as even via email), Clutch, Rivet & Hide, Oi Polloi, Real McCoys all actually engage customers in person and have a chat without being annoying or 'salesy'.

End is easily the worst but not surprising.

Clutch is probably the best service IMO, everyone in there knows the product and gives honest opinions. Happy to take a the time on things whether they are selling £2k leathers or a t-shirt.
swede
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9074 posts since 21/3/09

2 May 2020 10:25
illwill wrote: I think it's due to tastes too.

The buyers at the independents are generally big fans of the brands and have a keen eye for particularly special pieces.

At the big retailers a buyer will just be going by what they can shift most of.

this. end is just ridiculous. just so much to sift through. stylists/models are terrible too. make all the clothes look crap
Crackajack
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7665 posts since 21/4/05

2 May 2020 10:27
Must cost a lot to do the models and photography compared to Oi P or Kafka approach which is much better (and actually styled well when they do editorial stuff). I guess they have research on it, it fits with being 'high end' or they think returns will be less.
bertoni
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1364 posts since 29/9/11

2 May 2020 11:00
Yeah I think End styling is the worst i’ve ever seen. Never seen an item look decent on there. Notre and Oi Polloi among the best IMO.
illwill
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4060 posts since 17/5/04

2 May 2020 11:47
bertoni wrote: Yeah I think End styling is the worst i’ve ever seen. Never seen an item look decent on there. Notre and Oi Polloi among the best IMO.

Agreed. What's the deal with photographing everything with really squared off shoulders?

Looks terrible.
generic_guy
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9560 posts since 16/9/02

2 May 2020 11:58
bertoni wrote: Yeah I think End styling is the worst i’ve ever seen. Never seen an item look decent on there. Notre and Oi Polloi among the best IMO.

Was so bad I don’t think they bother anymore but Yoox’s styling was phenomenally bad.
bertoni
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1364 posts since 29/9/11

2 May 2020 12:05
I don’t get why they don’t make more of an effort. It makes such a difference especially for online shops. Notre especially showed me how good EG gear can look. How many of us are beanpole-esque? I sure the fuck ain’t. And I don’t wanna look like I just stepped off of a fashion week runway.
illwill
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4060 posts since 17/5/04

2 May 2020 12:34
I think a lot of the duff styling is to do with the practicalities of providing correctly sized items for a shoot.

I assume they only send a large or a medium of everything to the shoot and only employ models of that size. So for Italian or Jap brands, the item sent to the shoot might be way too small for the model and look ridiculous.
crutch
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464 posts since 22/11/12

2 May 2020 12:51
But the end models are always summat like 6’3 with a 34inch chest - how is that a useful reference for sizing for most people?
lee7seven
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444 posts since 3/7/01

2 May 2020 12:59
Assembly in Frome is a great little store. Friendly service and the guy that runs it makes small run items purely for the store.

https://www.shopassembly.com/

As is/was Clath in Poundbury, but their site is down and there's no sign of any social media posts since February.
Sumbeam
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893 posts since 27/1/11

posted 2 May 2020 13:01, edited 2 May 2020 13:01
End styling is so shit. I do find they’re usually the best when providing measurements of the products though - always refer to their site if I’m unsure on sizing of something.

Oi Polloi are the best imo. The decked out features they do are usually really well styled
bertoni
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1364 posts since 29/9/11

posted 2 May 2020 13:40, edited 2 May 2020 13:40
Yeah End and a lot of other shops only have 6’5 models who weigh less than my missus. I’m sure high end designer gear hangs off them lovely but everyday gear looks absolutely shite on them. Oi Polloi have normal build geezers modelling their shit and it just looks more natural/less contrived.