Menswear: Indie Menswear - Support your locals


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swede
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9074 posts since 21/3/09

5 May 2020 16:59
Joe Bloggs wrote:
menace wrote:
pentonville wrote:
roophees wrote: Who are godhood backed by?

Think the OP is just someone chatting shit but will wait to be proved wrong..


one of their dad's is a private equity manager or something. Privately backed, not public

Her dad is a property developer, According to companies house he owned a third of the business. Have a feeling their first shop he owned so rent was 0.

rate that Cool why wouldn't you help your kids out if you are in that position?
pentonville
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posted 5 May 2020 17:01, edited 5 May 2020 17:01
Crackajack wrote: Yes and the point is retailers make a big deal of cultivating 'indepedent' status to appeal to folks while being quiet on things like significant private investment,family ties, free rent on prime shops etc. Makes the concept of independent a bit pointless really. Good market gimmick tho Cool

Regardless of whether or not you can qualify any of these claims (doubt it), you’re still talking about an indepedent (sic) business. But it does also seem like you’re spoiling for a petty squabble so for the sake of a good thread we’ll leave it there.

I started the first tiny business with money from the sale of a family property- certainly not developer money but enough to let me breathe for a year with the guarantee of having a little to put toward a mortgage deposit. It would have been impossible for me without that help so respect to the guy above who said he did it from saving from his job. It would be hypocritical of me to judge anyone who’d accepted any family help and if anyone tried to describe my place as anything other than independent they would be far wrong.
Crackajack
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7665 posts since 21/4/05

5 May 2020 17:59
I don't care about Goodhood mainly speaking generally, relax
Blofeld
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5 May 2020 18:20
getting spicy in here
Mosoona
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334 posts since 25/5/15

5 May 2020 19:53
swiftus wrote: Anyway, I've been thinking about how shops can create more of a connection with their customers. There are the patreon things out there (e.g. Kafka), but is there more possible options than just giving discounts for loyal customers?

What about a concept where your customers can help to shape the store? What if I let the FUK community help decide which new brands to bring in? Or model the clothes? And in exchange, you get a permanent discount, or exclusivity on some of the clothing before it becomes live? The shop wins with a 'truly' loyal customer base, and the customer wins with tangible savings/knowing that they shaped the store.

Suggest looking at No Man Walks Alone in the US and what they’ve been doing for years with Styleforum, they nail the stuff that you mention, seem to have lots of diehard regulars. Have also managed to get people in on both more casual brands as well as on the tailoring side. Helps that they have a bit of a cult of personality going on with the two guys running it. And that their buys are usually pretty good.
Crackajack
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5 May 2020 20:11
Same with SEH Kelly (as a brand), very frequent postings on Styleforum of their development and previews with a loyal following. I think this sort of thing (via Insta or whatever channel you would use) is hard to do well though and can easily seem forced + any customer service issues raised there would potentially be ugly.

The shops who are on there to just say 'look we have this in stock, buy from us!' don't seem to get the same following as it's just obvious shilling.

Joe Bloggs
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posted 5 May 2020 20:43, edited 5 May 2020 20:43
Crackajack wrote: The shops who are on there to just say 'look we have this in stock, buy from us!' don't seem to get the same following as it's just obvious shilling.

I think thats because that is what you can see of the following through the medium of the forums (the exact situation of us discussing it now)


Plenty of other shops have cult and much bigger followings that don't end up on forums, instagram or even the internet.

edit: jsut reread and we are on the same page!
Mosoona
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334 posts since 25/5/15

5 May 2020 21:41
Does anyone know what happened to OTHER store(shop?)? They weren't the most out there with buys but had lot of cool Stephan Schneider + Lemaire pieces, along with AKOG and others. Always seemed to sell out of their stock as well, so just assumed business was at least steady.
Rirawin
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5 May 2020 21:53
Huh Store in London
swede
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9074 posts since 21/3/09

6 May 2020 07:37
pent in the silver spoon club with me and rural Cool welcome brother. need to bump the class thread
Anto
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3855 posts since 19/1/12

6 May 2020 08:23
crutch wrote: I guess, for me, the difference is they are still an entity in themselves - not a chain store or owned by some big retail mogul or Mike Ashley type. In an example like Goodhood there always feels a genuine purpose/connection to their customers and brands stocked rather than diversifying some portfolio or capitalising on the growth of the men’s fashion sector.

I think this is a good rule of thumb.

Then you can clearly go more in depth among indies and see who has no backing at all vs family backing etc, but it's all a bit more complicated
cutandpaste
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6 May 2020 12:41
Mosoona wrote: Does anyone know what happened to OTHER store(shop?)? They weren't the most out there with buys but had lot of cool Stephan Schneider + Lemaire pieces, along with AKOG and others. Always seemed to sell out of their stock as well, so just assumed business was at least steady.

One of my favourite stores.

Didn’t make any money though. Their retained earnings was -£1.1m as at Dec 2017.

Still going through liquidation process based on companies house.
joeyjojo
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6 May 2020 13:02
Rirawin wrote: Huh Store in London

Dalston High Street? Great shop, great dog. Never saw one person buy anything though
Joe Bloggs
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400 posts since 28/9/10

6 May 2020 13:26
cutandpaste wrote:
Mosoona wrote: Does anyone know what happened to OTHER store(shop?)? They weren't the most out there with buys but had lot of cool Stephan Schneider + Lemaire pieces, along with AKOG and others. Always seemed to sell out of their stock as well, so just assumed business was at least steady.

One of my favourite stores.

Didn’t make any money though. Their retained earnings was -£1.1m as at Dec 2017.

Still going through liquidation process based on companies house.

Must have been a kick in the teeth when your ex-partner goes onto fund the first fashion unicorn
Rirawin
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posted 6 May 2020 14:12, edited 6 May 2020 14:12
joeyjojo wrote:
Rirawin wrote: Huh Store in London

Dalston High Street? Great shop, great dog. Never saw one person buy anything though

Aye. Mainly bought Hay stuff from them online as they have 10%/20% always going. Their online customer service is great, free delivery over £35 and free returns, very quick at answering online queries, etc.
Egan
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448 posts since 17/10/11

6 May 2020 21:02
Is it not one of the members of cast who owns that shop?
Crackajack
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7 May 2020 22:45
https://www.northern-fells.com/

Cumbria

Pls add Dicks (Edinburgh) and John Simons (London) to the OP
staygold
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5035 posts since 21/11/05

8 May 2020 06:37
What about the business fashion in Leicester? Is that an independent?
Joe Bloggs
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400 posts since 28/9/10

8 May 2020 08:50
staygold wrote: What about the business fashion in Leicester? Is that an independent?

Yes but the bloke who owns it's dad is something like a local fish and chips mogul
nothingelseworked
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3551 posts since 21/2/10

8 May 2020 08:52
Fish and chips mogul Laughing out loud