Random Questions: LCD TV - Help Needed


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schtoop
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12812 posts since 9/4/07

20 Jan 2018 21:38
Thanks, I don't often buy new TV's so I'l probably get it just for netflix
gonzoking
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643 posts since 13/3/11

21 Jan 2018 17:44
schtoop wrote: Sorry to sound stupid but will I benefit from a 4k tv if I just watch tv and play a non 4k ps4?

If i'm looking at getting a new tv I might as well pay £50 more for a 4k version yes?

Does screen resolution effect general viewing?

The only benefit you will get is if you fork out for an oled screen, the pic quality on these is off the hook but they will cost you £1500 plus, 4K adds not much to the average viewer, I have a 65" Lucky Goldstar Oled 4K and cannot see any difference between blu ray discs and 4K content on netflix or amazon.
Crackajack
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6630 posts since 21/4/05

21 Jan 2018 18:08
I bought a cheap 4k (49") LG 2017, £420ish. Would recommend it. I just didn't think the 4K / HDR content is there to justify spending £1500 on the OLED LG or £2000 on Sony. I also reckon HDR isn't a fully settled standard and seems a bit of a gimmick.

I'm surprised you don't think the blu-ray and Netflix shows a difference, a stated 2060p stream of Netflix still looks a bit poor to me and is only about 20mbps and highly compressed compared to 60mbps+ from a Blu Ray.
slenderhan
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38 posts since 21/12/14

21 Jan 2018 18:28
My 5 year old Panasonic plasma broke down yesterday (heartbreaking) so I find myself also needing a new TV. It's hard to decide between a mid-range 4K probably LG model or go the whole hog and spend £1.5k on OLED. Anyone got OLED and definitely think they're worth the money? I watch a lot of movies and also Netflix. Would be great to play games on too.
diederik
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3110 posts since 16/8/11

posted 21 Jan 2018 18:35, edited 21 Jan 2018 18:35
What broke down on your Pana? Got a 7 year old Panasonic, still going strong. I still think the picture quality (and colours) are great considering the age. My HDMI ports broke down once but fixed it myself, just got the part off eBay (new motherboard). Cost me like 40 quid to fix it.
illwill
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2831 posts since 17/5/04

21 Jan 2018 18:46
Panasonic plasmas still have a bit of a following.

You might get a few quid for it on ebay as parts.

Some Pioneers still get very strong money.
jogon321
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528 posts since 13/4/12

21 Jan 2018 19:18
I think OLED is definitely worth it if you're watching a lot of movies at home. Big improvement over LCD and the only thing thats comparable to plasma picture quality and most of the sets look good too with them being super thin
morgan
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738 posts since 22/2/11

21 Jan 2018 20:07
I had to dial down my 4K settings as they spoil a lot of tv and films. I nearly sent the tv back as it was too vivid. It’s called the soap opera effect.

Try watching GoT in 4K HDR and you’ll know what I mean. It looks like shit. You almost feel like you’re on set watching them record. Breaks all immersion and you see every detail of all the SFX. That’s not a good thing.

You put your tv into movie mode and dial down the settings and you’re back to the grainy 24fps we all know and love.


It’s only good for sport in my opinion.
slenderhan
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38 posts since 21/12/14

21 Jan 2018 23:01
Diederik - I think what's broken is a switch on a board and also the IR receiver, it makes this weird clicking noise and fails to turn the screen on. I googled it and reckon it'll cost at least £100 to fix as it's again to do with one maybe two boards. I'm thinking to repair it once I have another TV and keep it for a spare.

Illwill - Absolutely, still think plasma has the best colour representation and picture quality hands-down and modern plasmas will run you serious money. That Pana at the time was a top end one so it would be a shame to scrap it. Only OLED comes close and I'm not sure which is better.

Thanks for your input all.
diederik
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3110 posts since 16/8/11

21 Jan 2018 23:23
Probably replacing the motherboard will fix the issue - but it's a bit of a gamble as you might be buying parts for nothing. Replacing it is relatively easy if you make sure you keep a good log of all cables and screws as there's a million of them. I just followed some video on youtube and that did the trick.
hate
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1554 posts since 4/1/12

22 Jan 2018 09:01
My 10y old Plasmas HDMI ports broke down aswell. is it really that easy to fix?
diederik
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3110 posts since 16/8/11

posted 22 Jan 2018 10:09, edited 22 Jan 2018 10:09
The hard way is just to replace the HDMI component, as it requires soldering. I'm not that handy, but replacing the whole motherboard (including the HDMI components) was straight forward - it's just very important you buy the exact same motherboard (same model, revision, etc. - this is all printed on the board) and put all screws and cables back in the right place. There's plenty of vid on youtube as well.

Probably took me 1-2 hours to fix it.
gonzoking
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643 posts since 13/3/11

26 Jan 2018 19:30
Crackajack wrote: I bought a cheap 4k (49") LG 2017, £420ish. Would recommend it. I just didn't think the 4K / HDR content is there to justify spending £1500 on the OLED LG or £2000 on Sony. I also reckon HDR isn't a fully settled standard and seems a bit of a gimmick.

I'm surprised you don't think the blu-ray and Netflix shows a difference, a stated 2060p stream of Netflix still looks a bit poor to me and is only about 20mbps and highly compressed compared to 60mbps+ from a Blu Ray.
Too be clear, blu rays on an oled look stunning, better than 4K netflix streams, only a dedicated 4K disc player will look better, and oled screens are worth every penny, every hd source you watch just looks fantastic.
Kingmob07
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8888 posts since 11/5/07

2 Feb 2018 10:59
Had a 32" Sony Bravia for 9 years (shocking I know) and need a replacement. Do you really need a 55" for 4K? I'm looking at a fairly entry-level Samsung (UE49MU6400), but stuck between the 49" and the 55".
Crackajack
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6630 posts since 21/4/05

2 Feb 2018 11:14
I went from a 32" to a 49" and it seems 'normal' after a few days, could have gone bigger. Same resolution and a bigger screen means a marginally lower quality image (same resolution over a bigger area) as you increase in size, if you have the space get a "55 though.
slenderhan
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38 posts since 21/12/14

2 Feb 2018 11:25
Just got my 55" Samsung 4K, voice activation, smart, all the bells and whistles, thought about 65" but I'd have to sit too far back. Really happy with it except one minor caveat which is that the dynamic back lighting switches dark scenes to slightly lighter when you have subs on e.g. for foreign films but it's really not a big thing. Deffo recommend Samsung. Will go OLED in a few years when the price drops a bit which I predict will happen.
Kingmob07
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8888 posts since 11/5/07

2 Feb 2018 11:49
Cheers both. How far back you watching your sets?

I'm thinking I might stick with the 49". Dimensions still seem pretty big for that and will probably end up upgrading to OLED or the equivalent once Ultra HD etc is more widespread.
Crackajack
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6630 posts since 21/4/05

2 Feb 2018 13:52
About 250cm. The 32" was a struggle Laughing out loud