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joe6886
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832 posts since 16/11/08

22 Jan 2020 07:16
Yeah had it myself a few years back, some of the best money I’ve spent. The older I got the more self conscious I got about my teeth, doing photos and stuff for mates weddings etc so only got them when I was nearly 30 but should’ve done it sooner.

Pros:
Fairly quick process, mine was 56 weeks in total. Change the retainer every 2 weeks to the next one.
Pretty much invisible day to day.
If you wana lose weight then it’ll help, it simply isn’t worth the bother of snacking or drinking anything but water. Ideally when you eat you brush your teeth straight after then put it back in so you just start thinking can I actually be bothered.

Cons:
You have to wear it 22 hours a day, wasn’t really an issue for me and if I was going on a night out I’d leave it at home. Just wouldn’t make a habit of that.
You can only drink water with them in or it’ll get stained, so coffee breaks or sugary drinks are a no. If I was at the end of a 2 week period I’d leave it in if I was going for a few pints or anything coz it was going in the bin shortly after.
I’ve now got a fixed metal wire behind my front 6 teeth, top and bottom. I’m more than used to it now but that’s there forever plus have to wear a plastic retainer at night. I don’t wear that every night but if I leave it for a couple of nights you can still feel the teeth have moved as it gets tighter to put on so worth keeping on top of.

I read a lot of stories about it being painful before I got mine but I never found it bad at all. If anything the pain was quite satisfying in a weird way as you could it was working.

I paid about £6k in total when I had mine but I’m seeing adverts now for a lot cheaper and all mail order. The pros massively outweigh the cons and even the negatives you get used to in no time and aren’t even much of a bother in the end.

Bit of an essay there, if you want any more info then pm me and if you’re in the north west I can recommend my dentist. He’s a decent fella.
nothingelseworked
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3376 posts since 21/2/10

posted 22 Jan 2020 08:52, edited 22 Jan 2020 08:52
Cheers, both.

Joe, that's super insightful so cheers for that Cool Will drop you a DM shortly.

Edit: Decided to post here instead just in case others have insight.

joe6886 wrote: I’ve now got a fixed metal wire behind my front 6 teeth, top and bottom.

This bit stood out to me and not something I knew was a possibility - they don't mention this on their site.

Does the wire affect you in any way? Get in the way of eating certain foods? Painful/annoying/irritating at all? etc

Also, any idea on following?

1) Is that wire for all cases post-Invisalign or just for some?

2) Is the wire something that could happen after traditional braces?

I don't think I'm that bothered by traditional braces and cost isn't an issue. Just want to go with the treatment that has the lowest maintenance after really e.g. Not having a wire fitted after if another treatment can do it without. I expect I'll need to speak to ortho for better insight for my individual case.

My ortho only provides Invisalign so they rave about how it's the best treatment for obvious reasons, so I feel like I need to go somewhere that offers both to get impartial advice, which is a bit inconvenient.
krisricey
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2071 posts since 24/3/12

22 Jan 2020 09:10
I've had a fixed wire behind my bottom teeth since I was about 15. Never notice it these days and doesn't impact eating any foods whatsoever - but you do have to be super super careful with brushing behind it. Plaque can easily build up there and cause trouble.
roophees
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1597 posts since 18/12/10

22 Jan 2020 09:30
do you need to have a permanent wire behind? the wire set in for the rest of my life is the only aspect I think that's stopping me from doing it.
joe6886
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832 posts since 16/11/08

22 Jan 2020 09:51
With regards to the wire, it really doesn’t get in the way at all. Obviously if you touch the back of your teeth with your tongue you can feel it but day to day it doesn’t affect me at all. Eating is normal and I just have an electric toothbrush and use that as normal, I go to the hygienist twice a year and she’s never made a comment about plaque or why other problems.

I’m not sure if all orthodontists will fit a wire, I got the impression that mine insisted on it as he didn’t want to see his work go back to how it was. As I said before, if I didn’t wear my retainer at night for a couple of evenings on the bounce I can feel they’ve moved slightly over that period so for me it’s not worth neglecting the aftercare.

Shortly after getting mine done, my mrs got a traditional train track brace. The time frame was similar, the results the same but it was a good couple of grand cheaper overall. Obviously the negative is that they are pretty unsightly so I didn’t look at her for best part of a year. He also insisted she has a retainer wire aswell though so even with fixed braces I think that’s the case. As you can imagine, our bedtime routine is pretty hot stuff Oops
joe6886
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832 posts since 16/11/08

posted 22 Jan 2020 10:19, edited 22 Jan 2020 10:19
roophees wrote: do you need to have a permanent wire behind? the wire set in for the rest of my life is the only aspect I think that's stopping me from doing it.

Honestly it’s something I didn’t realise when I initially enquired but it’s so minor now it’s all done. The results outweigh that in my eyes anyway.

I never did a proper before and after but this is how I started and finished..

Edit: Pictures are the wrong way round but you get the idea



MoB
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36795 posts since 31/8/04

22 Jan 2020 10:20
massive improvement that, look great
roophees
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1597 posts since 18/12/10

22 Jan 2020 10:26
Cheers for the advice Joe - v helpful. i get its v minor in the grand scheme of the job, but something about having it permanently behind your teeth gets to me - worse than a tattoo in my head. i also grind my teeth a little badly so have a guard to protect against that already, so not sure how having a invisalign retainer would work alongside that.

how you find your ortho? just local?
blackham
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1747 posts since 17/7/13

22 Jan 2020 10:50
joe6886 wrote: …they are pretty unsightly so I didn’t look at her for best part of a year.

Laughing out loud
joe6886
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832 posts since 16/11/08

22 Jan 2020 11:01
roophees wrote: Cheers for the advice Joe - v helpful. i get its v minor in the grand scheme of the job, but something about having it permanently behind your teeth gets to me - worse than a tattoo in my head. i also grind my teeth a little badly so have a guard to protect against that already, so not sure how having a invisalign retainer would work alongside that.

how you find your ortho? just local?

Yeah I can’t comment on the teeth grinding thing, best to just get booked in for a consultation but it’s basically just a mouth guard anyway so it’s probably the same idea.

Yeah I just googled Invisalign Southport where I’m from and I’d heard of the fella already so decided to go with him. Hes on Instagram - drstephendodd if you’re up north, looks like he’s branching out doing minor celebrities and stuff. Had Tyrone from corrie in recently so that’s a claim to fame for me!
Rirawin
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9274 posts since 17/7/05

22 Jan 2020 11:59
I had braces when I was a kid and because I didn't have the perma-wire put on the bottom row of my teeth, they have gone back to being a little wonky over the years. Still much better than they were and not really that noticeable. When I smile my top teeth show all the time not my bottom anyway.

Missus has perma-wire on the bottom row of her teeth and one end came off in the middle of our Peru trip. Had to do some home dentistry with a make up mirror and a nail clipper Laughing out loud
nothingelseworked
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3376 posts since 21/2/10

22 Jan 2020 15:30
Cheers for the info, fukers Cool That's all really helpful.

blackham wrote:
joe6886 wrote: …they are pretty unsightly so I didn’t look at her for best part of a year.

Laughing out loud

Laughing out loud
NigelBenn
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4098 posts since 6/2/08

22 Jan 2020 21:06
Anyone done porcelain veneers?
Burt
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5749 posts since 3/1/10

22 Jan 2020 21:15
Is 'Porcelain Veneers' the bird from that strip joint? If so 'No' Eye-wink
shields88
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433 posts since 25/5/11

22 Jan 2020 22:31
Just seen an advert earlier for teeth straightening - can't remember the name but I'm sure it was about £2k and they done a payment plan for £120 a month. Someone else might know the name.

The Mrs has veneers and has had them for about 7 years now. Still look as white as when she first got them.
krisricey
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2071 posts since 24/3/12

23 Jan 2020 09:36
Looking at switching to a Hive Active Heating system in my new house. Anyone got one? Better than Nest?
Rirawin
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9274 posts since 17/7/05

posted 23 Jan 2020 10:41, edited 23 Jan 2020 10:41
I inherited a have Hive heating system, and wish it was Nest Laughing out loud Nest "learns" your habits and adjusts the heating schedule accordingly, Hive doesn't have that feature. Having said that the support for Hive is pretty good. There was one Sunday evening the Thermostat lost connection to the Hub and the boiler connector, spent an hour or so trying to reconnect with little success. I ended up calling their helpline, was put through pretty much straight away to a UK call centre and all sorted within 10 minutes.

If you just want to control your heating remotely, and schedule things a lot easier and not bothered about the wider eco-system of smart devices, Hive will do the job just fine. Plus there's the whole privacy concern with Nest devices, what with Google being its parent company.
krisricey
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2071 posts since 24/3/12

23 Jan 2020 11:05
Thanks Rira. I think eventually I will invest in some movement sensors and potentially smart plugs too, but just for heating I think we will go for Hive. Reviews seem good and, as you say, perfect just to get the heating set up right.
LFC
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3938 posts since 14/6/11

23 Jan 2020 11:07
Had Hive for a few year now. No problems at all and when we bought a new boiler last year the swap over was perfect.
krisricey
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2071 posts since 24/3/12

23 Jan 2020 11:47
Assume youre both using combi boilers and no problems? That's what I'll be using