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Hanto
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2872 posts since 30/11/09

29 Apr 2021 15:33
I've been on my own for pretty much for whole time as my wife, up until maternity, has been in the office as she is police.

I like the flexibility of wfh, plus getting out to run etc after without an 45 minute commute etc is nice.

Will need to see what things look when she is back at work, but at the moment I am looking at 1 day a week. May go to 2. I agree with the social aspect of work as I talk to people who I get on with but wouldn't have direct contact with in my role and so don't ever message on Teams etc.

Just come back from the office today and really enjoyed it.
swede
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9620 posts since 21/3/09

29 Apr 2021 15:39
we're downsizing our office by 50% despite hiring another 50% of people since lockdown. working on the assumption now that most people will only come in 2 days max a week, with a lot of people working full time from home if they'd like

i do miss the office #banter and it was tough at the start without a proper setup. now with 2nd screen and desk, MS teams etc its great. love not having to iron shirts too. definitely working longer hours as you are assumed to be available from 8-7pm…
Dee
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11975 posts since 22/11/07

29 Apr 2021 15:48
thought you worked in a lab?


testing monkeys
swede
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9620 posts since 21/3/09

29 Apr 2021 17:43
have to say i do miss the change of scenery with going to the office/travelling. would be well happy spending 2 nights in some drab business hotel in zurich right now Laughing out loud
illwill
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4123 posts since 17/5/04

29 Apr 2021 18:22
Boss is gonna be expecting at least some presence in the office but I'll be longing out 100% WFH until he puts the screws on me.

I'll be fuming every second I'm commuting. Such wasted time.
crutch
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489 posts since 22/11/12

29 Apr 2021 18:39
We were working from home/only going in when needed for meetings etc.
I’ve since swapped to a new job that 100% remote, head office is in North America and I’m really enjoying it. Find it ok as I work closely with a small group of people - have to remind myself to just check in on a video call for general chats now and then.
I don’t miss being in an open plan office at all.
Can see it being hard if you are at the start of your career though.
YLAup
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5633 posts since 5/9/11

29 Apr 2021 19:43
I've been happy working at home, splitting my time between apt and parents, and then as soon as I heard we were going back to the office, I got another job working 100% at home for at least a year.

Kirsty Allsoup phwoaarrr, warns against all this current setup however..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9509085/amp/Kirstie-Allsopp-says-people-stop-rushing-buy-homes-overheated-market.html
Sumbeam
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952 posts since 27/1/11

29 Apr 2021 19:56
I’m 29 and have worked flexibly for the last 3 years or so, generally 2 days wfh - 3 days in the office.
Been 100% wfh since last March like most other people, but really enjoyed it. The 1 hour commute each hasn’t been missed, and being able to get to the gym on a dinner or a walk around the park has been great.

I’ve recently started a new job so been in the office a couple of times this week and enjoyed interacting with people again, going out to get some lunch, a walk around town etc. But I think I’d still rather remain wfh for the majority - going in once/twice per week to see a few people, go for some drinks after work etc.

Only thing is, I’ve been working from the dining room table so really need to get a dedicated space setup. Expecting our 1st kid in August, so that may bring a new aspect to it too…
swede
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9620 posts since 21/3/09

29 Apr 2021 20:13
Sumbeam wrote: Only thing is, I’ve been working from the dining room table .

no snob/silver spoon but how the fuck are people managing to work like this for a >year now. i only managed a week of it
Goldie
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4787 posts since 17/10/07

29 Apr 2021 20:17
swede wrote: we're downsizing our office by 50% despite hiring another 50% of people since lockdown. working on the assumption now that most people will only come in 2 days max a week, with a lot of people working full time from home if they'd like

i do miss the office #banter and it was tough at the start without a proper setup. now with 2nd screen and desk, MS teams etc its great. love not having to iron shirts too. definitely working longer hours as you are assumed to be available from 8-7pm…

Miss your insta stories of the guy leaving at 16:58 Laughing out loud
Sumbeam
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952 posts since 27/1/11

29 Apr 2021 20:23
swede wrote:
Sumbeam wrote: Only thing is, I’ve been working from the dining room table .

no snob/silver spoon but how the fuck are people managing to work like this for a >year now. i only managed a week of it

For me it’s been laziness more than anything - we’ve been looking to move house to somewhere bigger, where I could have a dedicate “office”. So I’ve put off buying a desk/chair etc (stupidly) as that hasn’t happened and with the baby due shortly it’s likely to be at least another year until we move
Hello World
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12160 posts since 7/3/05

29 Apr 2021 20:48
Have been working 100% at home until last couple of months when it is a week in week out. Will settle into a 2 days office in 3 days at home. Offices converted to collaborative working spaces so nice for team meetings. Commute is only 10m so no issues.
Rez
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8596 posts since 5/4/09

posted 29 Apr 2021 21:03, edited 29 Apr 2021 21:03
Was furloughed for a few months last year, and then back to work with not much on, so was quite happy with the WFH stuff as it allowed me to look for a new job and work on a load of other projects on the sly.

They were quite aggressive with getting people back in as early as they could and didn't give enough of a shit about covid which really alienated a few people (vulnerable, pregnant etc.), Especially back in August when they mandated people come in for two days a week, regardless of circumstance. I didn't really mind coming in but it did sour things, especially as they kept a wage reduction for all staff (still ongoing).

Changed jobs back in Feb and I'm pretty desperate to be back in the office, very busy now and feeling the strain of not talking and selling stuff in face to face. On the plus side I've moved with my work partner so at least socially I'm not totally on my own.

Can echo the comments about younger workers - I've seen a definite decline in the junior and midweights work, they're not learning/nobody is around to punch up their work and help them out.

I want to get back in but I've always worked away from my desk, ooo before covid. So ideally I'd just like more time and freedom to do that rather than people trying to do bullshit presenteeism (I do hope this ends the culture of some agencies where the expectation is you stay well past your hours).
illwill
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4123 posts since 17/5/04

29 Apr 2021 21:20
Part of my work's business is providing helpdesk services and they've lost a lot of staff.

It was all 18-25 year olds who I guess are really struggling working at parents' houses or in shitty house shares. Lots of people off with depression/anxiety too.

Hanto
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2872 posts since 30/11/09

30 Apr 2021 05:38
Sumbeam - we are basically in the same scenario, except I have the baby now as well as the dining room desk.

I held off doing anything as I wasn't sure how long we would be in this scenario and for how long. I have two monitors and the laptop so it did take the piss at one point, but post baby I have been on reduced hours due to health reasons so haven't setup everything fully since I was on paternity and am doing fine with just the laptop to be honest.

I am probably going to need to change the guest bedroom into a hybrid office, but it is a catch all for everything atm (wife has a piano in there) so it won't really feel that inviting to be honest.

In my head, wfh is not my permanent work space so I don't want to treat it as such because then I'll just feel like we don't have enough space.
bungleski
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515 posts since 21/7/11

30 Apr 2021 05:54
My company have given blanket approval for anyone within the company to wfh until at least September. Office locations have opened up but only for people who deem themselves to be working ineffectively from home, the focus is still wfh if you can.
With 3 kids, one only 3 months olds it’s been a struggle balancing the work/life split. No decompression time between one and the other and also find myself working more hours at home.
Don’t miss the commute up to London everyday though and luckily for me there is a Brighton office so I’m getting a couple of days there each week which has been great.
Seems highly likely that we’ll move to a split office/wfh set up come September which would be ideal as I do like the relaxed start to the day wfh provides.
Rez
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8596 posts since 5/4/09

30 Apr 2021 07:23
Completely understand not wanting to admit the situation and just make do with a shitty office at home, have been really reluctant to do the same with the second bedroom!
Rez
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8596 posts since 5/4/09

30 Apr 2021 07:27
I will say my mood is a lot flatter WFH, I miss going out, travelling, going to new places, going to events, even dressing up in more than sweats and a tee etc.

I've also done a couple of shoots remotely and it is absolutely rubbish.
Hanto
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2872 posts since 30/11/09

posted 30 Apr 2021 08:10, edited 30 Apr 2021 08:10
I agree with you both tbh. The decompression time in the car, especially with my commute as its through the South Downs, villages etc. is great. I have always treated going to London for work as a day out tbh, because it was so infrequent for client meetings, so the office is that now. Tbh, I have no idea if/when I am going to be going to client's offices for meetings. Considering we have our policy, it's that however many times over with variations. I kind of feel like the job I was looking at were kidding themselves thinking you'd need to be going to London to meet clients. Considering my last meeting was about a fortnight before lockdown with a Korean company, who insisted we sign a document confirming we hadn't travelled from the hotspots at the time, e.g. Korea, Italy, I cannot see businesses like that allowing non-company staff in for a long time. If the team and I can participate in contract tenders from invitation to sign off remotely, what is the point in meeting face to face for the client, unless they like to see who they are working with, which some definitely do.

There are some things, however, we have done remotely which were just rubbish, mainly office Christmas party. Escape rooms and drinking on your own via Teams just sounds tragic as I write it, but that is what it was. Then finishing at 6pm. Laughing out loud

Seeing my newborn son as much as I am is really nice, plus with the heatwave we had last year, I was able to swim in the sea at 8 in the morning before work. Not many that can say that. Eye-wink
burny
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6000 posts since 25/5/06

30 Apr 2021 08:32
We've dropped everyone down to a 4 day week with no pay cut. It's meant we haven't had to give any pay rises this year and everyone gets Friday off. Friday was always a 'fuck about' day in the office and this past year I don't think anyone's really done a full day's work on a Friday.

Giving up the lease on our office and looking for some co-working space in either Bristol or Bath. The plan would be to find somewhere full of creatives so we have easy access to good freelance resources going forward. Staff can work in their 4 days a week if they want or they can work from home but we'd look to have at least a couple of lunch/after-work drinks to keep the social side of things going. Everyone has laptops and screens at home and we'll just buy new screens to stay in the office once we find somewhere.