General Discussion: The Motoring Thread Incorporating All Motor Vehicles (Including Motor Cycles.)


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ismvil
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1356 posts since 16/9/11

18 Jul 2020 09:51
Service history, HPI check, low mileage, number of previous owners, look at the owner and think are they likely to have thrashed it, when you rock up to their house is it messy as fuck or does it look decent etc

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-cars/nearly-new-buying-guide-bmw-1-series

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/tips-and-advice/154128/used-bmw-1-series-buying-guide-2004-2011-mk1
Razorlight123
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4664 posts since 13/1/10

18 Jul 2020 11:00
Nice one, cheers ismvil
sodomgomorra
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1581 posts since 24/3/14

18 Jul 2020 11:03
Also, you could get a pre-purchase inspection done at a garage for relatively little money. You can rather easily earn back the cost when talking price.
RickRude
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3548 posts since 13/1/12

posted 18 Jul 2020 14:09, edited 18 Jul 2020 14:09
Peugeot 3008 GT - yay or nay.

Between that and an XC40 atm

swede
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8991 posts since 21/3/09

18 Jul 2020 22:34
Razor if you don’t know what you’re doing just get one from a garage man
andymakesglasses
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20423 posts since 26/1/06

19 Jul 2020 07:50
Or from your grandpa.
Razorlight123
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4664 posts since 13/1/10

posted 19 Jul 2020 08:06, edited 19 Jul 2020 08:06
swede wrote: Razor if you don’t know what you’re doing just get one from a garage man

Lol, yeah I agree, if the difference isn't too much better to just get it from a garage.

A 1-2k difference is nothing relative to a potential 10k loss.
swede
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8991 posts since 21/3/09

19 Jul 2020 08:45
exactly - its not easy to pick out the lemon when buying 2nd hand cars
Davinho
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2290 posts since 2/12/08

19 Jul 2020 10:09
Have you considered a golf rather than a 1 series? you’ll get more for your money.
Razorlight123
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4664 posts since 13/1/10

posted 19 Jul 2020 17:47, edited 19 Jul 2020 17:47
Davinho wrote: Have you considered a golf rather than a 1 series? you’ll get more for your money.

Yeah so I've heard, I just prefer 1 Series Sport vs Golf on an aesthetic front - I'd have gone for the Volvo V40, if it wasn't for their internal screen and interface.

However, the interior of 16-18 plate 1 series is dated, unsure why they still include CD Players, their odometer although digitised by 2020.
Best
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9875 posts since 21/10/05

19 Jul 2020 21:13
Got a baby due in a September so I’m looking to a car, can’t afford a Porsche so going for a BMW. Probably an X1 as I don’t want anything too big and it seems to be best in class from the reviews I’ve read.

I’m looking for used 1 or 2 year old max. Went to look at a couple today and the dealer (authorised) said they don’t negotiate on price. I’m a cash buyer so want to get the most I can, but they wouldn’t budge at all. Is this normal?
quest
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3555 posts since 11/7/11

19 Jul 2020 21:25
that is definitely not normal lol, have you countered their asking price, or just asked if they will go lower?
illwill
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4050 posts since 17/5/04

19 Jul 2020 21:29
Thought dealers made all their money from shylock finance deals. No incentive for them to do a deal for cash.
Best
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9875 posts since 21/10/05

19 Jul 2020 21:41
Offered on two cars at two separate BMW dealerships (Reading and Chiswick) and neither would entertain offers. I wasn’t even asking for much off - 4% off one and £500 below asking price on the other. I may just risk it with a dealer or a cazoo / car supermarket place. Seems like salesman don’t actually want to sell cars?!
swede
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8991 posts since 21/3/09

19 Jul 2020 21:44
They will do you a deal if you take finance. Just take the finance and then cancel it during the “cooling off period”… pay it all off with cash
Razorlight123
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4664 posts since 13/1/10

posted 19 Jul 2020 22:14, edited 19 Jul 2020 22:14
I've also been met with the stern, 'we don't negotiate on prices'.

Demand seems to be good on used cars at the moment, and if I remember reading correctly there's a temporary halt on production of new cars given the pandemic, so used cars will hold their value for abit longer.
sydneyking
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4783 posts since 26/9/09

20 Jul 2020 05:22
RickRude wrote: Peugeot 3008 GT - yay or nay.

Between that and an XC40 atm

XC40 over a 3008, residuals will be much better on the XC40 too
joe6886
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868 posts since 16/11/08

20 Jul 2020 06:10
Used car prices are well above book value at the moment, to replace the x1 you’ve looked at would probably cost them more than they are selling this one at and good used stock is thin on the ground. They are probably sitting tight because they know someone will come along and give them full money.
Kadafi39
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1744 posts since 30/10/09

20 Jul 2020 14:42
anvais wrote:
Kadafi39 wrote:
anvais wrote: Dunno, just like a car that's capable and I want to have one car that fits the family easily and is comfortable. I've had a tts, r8 & gtr in the past and for now am more than happy to scale down and build an estate.

1st gen r8? v8 or 10? How did it compare to the gtr?

Congrats on the R also, looks lovely in that blue, Lapiz is it?

2009 V8 manual. It was a great car but V10 is really the way to got with R8 imo, just wasn't able to spend that much on car and never got over of the fact that I wanted the V10. Gtr is a great car and the performance is amazing, but the interior is definitely lacking. Never driven the newer R8, but based on the two cars I've had I'd go with the gtr all day long.

Thanks! Yeah it's called lapiz, very deep weird blue. Laughing out loud

Thats exactly what I have been thinking and the only reason I havent jumped in an R8, decent low mile (30k odd mile) early 1st Gen r8's are about mid 30s now, but the performance is almost identical to my current M3, I really want the v10 but they start at 45+ and then my heart would sink everytime I saw a 13 plate onward facelilft.

The only thing that annoys me about the gtr is the constat servicing, I do about 3k miles a year in my weekend car and the gtr's before 2012 need servicing every 6 months regardless of mileage and the 2012+ ones arent much better at every 12 months regardless of mileage!

I've never driven a gtr though and i think if i loved it I would just use man maths to justify it to myself!
compulsiveshopper
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1291 posts since 12/6/12

20 Jul 2020 15:49
What decent alternatives to an Audi S3 are there, besides the predictable Golf R? Something in the £20 range