most similar: seat leon cupra r
other: focus or fiesta st, merc a45, bmw m135i… maybe a mini cooper s/john cooper works
other: focus or fiesta st, merc a45, bmw m135i… maybe a mini cooper s/john cooper works
General Discussion: The Motoring Thread Incorporating All Motor Vehicles (Including Motor Cycles.)
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20 Jul 2020 16:27
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1 Aug 2020 11:54
1st gen r8? v8 or 10? How did it compare to the gtr?
Congrats on the R also, looks lovely in that blue, Lapiz is it?
2009 V8 manual. It was a great car but V10 is really the way to got with R8 imo, just wasn't able to spend that much on car and never got over of the fact that I wanted the V10. Gtr is a great car and the performance is amazing, but the interior is definitely lacking. Never driven the newer R8, but based on the two cars I've had I'd go with the gtr all day long.
Thanks! Yeah it's called lapiz, very deep weird blue.
Thats exactly what I have been thinking and the only reason I havent jumped in an R8, decent low mile (30k odd mile) early 1st Gen r8's are about mid 30s now, but the performance is almost identical to my current M3, I really want the v10 but they start at 45+ and then my heart would sink everytime I saw a 13 plate onward facelilft.
The only thing that annoys me about the gtr is the constat servicing, I do about 3k miles a year in my weekend car and the gtr's before 2012 need servicing every 6 months regardless of mileage and the 2012+ ones arent much better at every 12 months regardless of mileage!
I've never driven a gtr though and i think if i loved it I would just use man maths to justify it to myself!
Sorry completely missed this. Yeah the V10 is a completely different car and the engine is amazing. Here the cheapest, including 1st gens, starts at €100k+ and they're always R-tronics. That's a horrible gearbox and really does not do the car any justice (V8 or V10). Manuals are more expensive but then again you get so much more out of the car.
Gtr servicing is quite frequent, that is true. But those kind of cars are usually always a pain in the butt if driven as a daily, even if service is not required that often. Mate of mine has a shop and been always taking my cars there if not under warranty, so the service cycle for me wasn't an issue at all. Plus I always change my engine oils every 5k anyways if anything's been done to the car just for the piece of mind.
You should definitely drive the gtr - regardless which gen it is. I think you'll be happily surprised by it and fairly certain you'll steer away from the V8 R8 afterwards.
posted 16 Aug 2020 17:14, edited 16 Aug 2020 17:14
posted 21 Aug 2020 10:25, edited 21 Aug 2020 10:25
11 Sep 2020 09:41
11 Sep 2020 10:23
Colour looks nice mate. How you finding the tesla?
Honestly, it's the best car I've owned. And once you get used to the response of an electric motor even something like a 911 Turbo S isn't instant enough. Don't drive one because you'll ruin any ICE car for yourself. A good friend of mine who used to be an automotive journo, rebuilt a XJS by hand, owns a 575 so is a proper car guy drove mine for 5 mins and had to order one. Also a great Q car as it can beat any prat off the lights.
posted 11 Sep 2020 12:18, edited 11 Sep 2020 12:18
Colour looks nice mate. How you finding the tesla?
Honestly, it's the best car I've owned. And once you get used to the response of an electric motor even something like a 911 Turbo S isn't instant enough. Don't drive one because you'll ruin any ICE car for yourself. A good friend of mine who used to be an automotive journo, rebuilt a XJS by hand, owns a 575 so is a proper car guy drove mine for 5 mins and had to order one. Also a great Q car as it can beat any prat off the lights.
I love the tech and speed but imo an engine is the heart of a car, you get so much feedback and drama from a big v8, v10 or v12 as it screams up to the redline, also the batterys weigh a ton so most elec cars end up handling like a boat with so much body roll that its no fun to blast it down a B road and it doesnt exactly inspire confidence around corners, but if youre in a city i Guess this is a moot point anyway. Personally ill put off the switch as long as possible. However its clear elec cars have come along way, players like Porsche with the taycan will change the game imo, heard many people say the taycan still feels like a normal car, which is probably the highest praise you could give an electric car!
Yeah theres no much out there that can keep up with the electric cars up to road speeds.
11 Sep 2020 12:27
This is crazy, I never knew the pads lasted like that! Surely only if you drive very sensibly though, im sure if you're playing the traffic light GP at every opportunity and slamming the brakes on from speed frequently they'll need changing like normal car pads at 10-20k?
Some of the figures here are unbelievable! https://forums.tesla.com/discussion/78266/brake-pad-replace-yet
11 Sep 2020 12:31
Colour looks nice mate. How you finding the tesla?
Honestly, it's the best car I've owned. And once you get used to the response of an electric motor even something like a 911 Turbo S isn't instant enough. Don't drive one because you'll ruin any ICE car for yourself. A good friend of mine who used to be an automotive journo, rebuilt a XJS by hand, owns a 575 so is a proper car guy drove mine for 5 mins and had to order one. Also a great Q car as it can beat any prat off the lights.
Speed from a standing start is mad. Had jag for a week now, nice to drive.
11 Sep 2020 14:51
saw a 70 plate taycan in guildford the other day. really very nice in the flesh. much larger than a 911 but very nice nonetheless
You should be able to pick up a half decent example of a M140i in that price range these days. It all depends on what you're looking for in a car, but in that price range I'd be looking at the above - a pre-PPF example with the M Performance exhaust and adaptive suspension and pro media package being a must imo.
It's not as pretty to look at, and feels a bit dated inside the cabin in comparison to the Audi, but by god it's a fucking scream.
It's not as pretty to look at, and feels a bit dated inside the cabin in comparison to the Audi, but by god it's a fucking scream.
After driving the car for just over 4500km over the past 9 days around northern Norway I'll have to say that I really made the right choice. Comfortable, performs really well and so much storage space. If anyone's thinking about getting a similar car (Leon Cupra ST, CLA45 AMG etc) I highly recommend this as an option. Much better and higher quality interior than the Seat and the gearbox and driveability just destroys the Merc.
Dunno, just like a car that's capable and I want to have one car that fits the family easily and is comfortable. I've had a tts, r8 & gtr in the past and for now am more than happy to scale down and build an estate.
1st gen r8? v8 or 10? How did it compare to the gtr?
Congrats on the R also, looks lovely in that blue, Lapiz is it?
2009 V8 manual. It was a great car but V10 is really the way to got with R8 imo, just wasn't able to spend that much on car and never got over of the fact that I wanted the V10. Gtr is a great car and the performance is amazing, but the interior is definitely lacking. Never driven the newer R8, but based on the two cars I've had I'd go with the gtr all day long.
Thanks! Yeah it's called lapiz, very deep weird blue.
Thats exactly what I have been thinking and the only reason I havent jumped in an R8, decent low mile (30k odd mile) early 1st Gen r8's are about mid 30s now, but the performance is almost identical to my current M3, I really want the v10 but they start at 45+ and then my heart would sink everytime I saw a 13 plate onward facelilft.
The only thing that annoys me about the gtr is the constat servicing, I do about 3k miles a year in my weekend car and the gtr's before 2012 need servicing every 6 months regardless of mileage and the 2012+ ones arent much better at every 12 months regardless of mileage!
I've never driven a gtr though and i think if i loved it I would just use man maths to justify it to myself!
Sorry completely missed this. Yeah the V10 is a completely different car and the engine is amazing. Here the cheapest, including 1st gens, starts at €100k+ and they're always R-tronics. That's a horrible gearbox and really does not do the car any justice (V8 or V10). Manuals are more expensive but then again you get so much more out of the car.
Gtr servicing is quite frequent, that is true. But those kind of cars are usually always a pain in the butt if driven as a daily, even if service is not required that often. Mate of mine has a shop and been always taking my cars there if not under warranty, so the service cycle for me wasn't an issue at all. Plus I always change my engine oils every 5k anyways if anything's been done to the car just for the piece of mind.
You should definitely drive the gtr - regardless which gen it is. I think you'll be happily surprised by it and fairly certain you'll steer away from the V8 R8 afterwards.
If any of you have issues with one of your keys, definitely check out https://keyrepair.co.uk/ before forking out 100s at a main dealership.
Anyone leased an electric car from https://on.to/ or can recommend a similar one that do electric cars?
I'm only after a short lease 1-2 months for later this year when the in-laws are over and saves having to use Enterprise Car Club, which I'm already a member of.
I'm only after a short lease 1-2 months for later this year when the in-laws are over and saves having to use Enterprise Car Club, which I'm already a member of.
Further to my query above, I'm getting range anxiety with the thought of owning an electric car (even if it's for a short period). Looking at the new Zoe and the range is 249 miles WLPT, but in real terms it's more like 200-210. Reason for wanting to lease one for short term is I plan to make multiple long car trips back home (250 miles each way) in November, December and January, and by leasing a car on a monthly basis it would work out far cheaper than just renting one for a week, or even getting the train.
With OnTo (previously Evezy) you get free membership to the Polar charging network (didn't realise there were so many of them), and looking on Zap-Map the charging points on the route don't appear to be too reliable. I'm guessing it's worth signing up to at least another charging network to ensure you're covered? If so what networks are worth signing up to/well maintained for short term ownership (not looking to be tied into a 12 month subscription), a question for the electric car owners for the forum.
Failing the above, any recommendations for companies that do short term leases, max 3 months for ICE cars? Google brings up a load, but many of them look a little suspect. Therefore, recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
With OnTo (previously Evezy) you get free membership to the Polar charging network (didn't realise there were so many of them), and looking on Zap-Map the charging points on the route don't appear to be too reliable. I'm guessing it's worth signing up to at least another charging network to ensure you're covered? If so what networks are worth signing up to/well maintained for short term ownership (not looking to be tied into a 12 month subscription), a question for the electric car owners for the forum.
Failing the above, any recommendations for companies that do short term leases, max 3 months for ICE cars? Google brings up a load, but many of them look a little suspect. Therefore, recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
Colour looks nice mate. How you finding the tesla?
Honestly, it's the best car I've owned. And once you get used to the response of an electric motor even something like a 911 Turbo S isn't instant enough. Don't drive one because you'll ruin any ICE car for yourself. A good friend of mine who used to be an automotive journo, rebuilt a XJS by hand, owns a 575 so is a proper car guy drove mine for 5 mins and had to order one. Also a great Q car as it can beat any prat off the lights.
Colour looks nice mate. How you finding the tesla?
Honestly, it's the best car I've owned. And once you get used to the response of an electric motor even something like a 911 Turbo S isn't instant enough. Don't drive one because you'll ruin any ICE car for yourself. A good friend of mine who used to be an automotive journo, rebuilt a XJS by hand, owns a 575 so is a proper car guy drove mine for 5 mins and had to order one. Also a great Q car as it can beat any prat off the lights.
I love the tech and speed but imo an engine is the heart of a car, you get so much feedback and drama from a big v8, v10 or v12 as it screams up to the redline, also the batterys weigh a ton so most elec cars end up handling like a boat with so much body roll that its no fun to blast it down a B road and it doesnt exactly inspire confidence around corners, but if youre in a city i Guess this is a moot point anyway. Personally ill put off the switch as long as possible. However its clear elec cars have come along way, players like Porsche with the taycan will change the game imo, heard many people say the taycan still feels like a normal car, which is probably the highest praise you could give an electric car!
Yeah theres no much out there that can keep up with the electric cars up to road speeds.
supposedly able to hit 80,000mi without changing brake pads 
This is crazy, I never knew the pads lasted like that! Surely only if you drive very sensibly though, im sure if you're playing the traffic light GP at every opportunity and slamming the brakes on from speed frequently they'll need changing like normal car pads at 10-20k?
Some of the figures here are unbelievable! https://forums.tesla.com/discussion/78266/brake-pad-replace-yet
Colour looks nice mate. How you finding the tesla?
Honestly, it's the best car I've owned. And once you get used to the response of an electric motor even something like a 911 Turbo S isn't instant enough. Don't drive one because you'll ruin any ICE car for yourself. A good friend of mine who used to be an automotive journo, rebuilt a XJS by hand, owns a 575 so is a proper car guy drove mine for 5 mins and had to order one. Also a great Q car as it can beat any prat off the lights.
Speed from a standing start is mad. Had jag for a week now, nice to drive.
However its clear elec cars have come along way, players like Porsche with the taycan will change the game imo, heard many people say the taycan still feels like a normal car, which is probably the highest praise you could give an electric car!
Yeah theres no much out there that can keep up with the electric cars up to road speeds.
Yeah theres no much out there that can keep up with the electric cars up to road speeds.
saw a 70 plate taycan in guildford the other day. really very nice in the flesh. much larger than a 911 but very nice nonetheless
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