General Discussion: The Motoring Thread Incorporating All Motor Vehicles (Including Motor Cycles.)


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Rirawin
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9652 posts since 17/7/05

posted 28 Mar 2022 16:20, edited 28 Mar 2022 16:20
Tbf Tesla are the only manufacturer that I'm aware of who are delivering on the timelines stated at the point of ordering, and in some cases ahead of their quoted delivery time. Some specs you can get as early as August 2022, while others (cheaper specs) are being pushed out to late 2022/early 2023. FWIW, I ordered in December and received mine in March. If I had ordered a VW ID3 instead during the same time I'd probably be waiting until 2023, despite being quoted mid 2022 by the dealership!

I guess if you order a Porsche, you just have to hope the ship transporting it over doesn't catch fire Eye-wink
swiftus
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1880 posts since 1/7/09

28 Mar 2022 17:22
swede wrote: Ubercool first fuker with one? endlessly better than some pathetic tesla

Always thought you were a Elon fanboy
swede
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10532 posts since 21/3/09

28 Mar 2022 17:56
i really respect what he's done with tesla but think he's a tool tbh

i have driven my dad's tesla and it is really nice to drive + very quick….. but the quality is a bit poor (some wonky panels and he's had to have the rear light cluster replaced twice). he says the customer service is poor compared to other brands too (this has been echoed elsewhere too; cars being delivered with loads of faults and people having to wait 6mos for another etc.)
youngkamio
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90 posts since 27/6/14

28 Mar 2022 19:04
Our neighbors have the RS Etron in grey. Honestly it looks a bit average (for the money). IMO an normal A7 looks alot more resolved and proper, nevermind the RS7 you could get with some change.

The Taycan estate would be my pick but there is just something plasticky about alot of these electric cars. Having said that i was quite impressed with the pics of the i4 m50 some of you have on order. Looks like a proper car.
R
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13339 posts since 17/5/03

28 Mar 2022 19:32
I didn't get the taycan, but tested it. really nice imo
RickRude
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4206 posts since 13/1/12

28 Mar 2022 19:54
Our neighbor has Mercedes EQC and looks average as well - nice wheels mind.
R
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13339 posts since 17/5/03

28 Mar 2022 20:02
they look so shit
Bails78
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768 posts since 6/1/08

28 Mar 2022 20:09
swede wrote: i really respect what he's done with tesla but think he's a tool tbh

i have driven my dad's tesla and it is really nice to drive + very quick….. but the quality is a bit poor (some wonky panels and he's had to have the rear light cluster replaced twice). he says the customer service is poor compared to other brands too (this has been echoed elsewhere too; cars being delivered with loads of faults and people having to wait 6mos for another etc.)

What your Old Man says about the customer Service is true, hence why my work don't offer Tesla in the scheme. I was really hoping to get one but as I've heard from multiple sources the build quality, poor after sales and the fact that the major brands have caught up or catching up just makes me think better off going with one of the traditional brands.
Rirawin
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9652 posts since 17/7/05

posted 28 Mar 2022 20:41, edited 28 Mar 2022 20:41
I'd say I've heard and experienced the opposite. There are a lot of problems with the Fremont US made cars but since UK is now supplied by cars made at the Shanghai plant, it's been a complete game changer - so much for Made in USA being better than Made in China. I'd say the number of issues that new Tesla owners who have picked up their cars (both Model 3 and the new Model Y) this quarter who have experienced problems, e.g. panel gaps, etc. are in the small minority. Even if you do notice an issue you all you have to do is raise a service centre request via the app, upload a photo, schedule a service appointment. You then either take it to your nearest service centre or have a ranger come out to repair/fix the issue. It's all very easy and convenient. Not heard of a single owner waiting 6 months for a replacement car, perhaps it was an issue a few years ago when they had a single plant in the US, now they have 3, US, Germany and China. Only time I've heard of replacement cars was when couple of unfortunate would be Model Y owners had their cars damaged by the storm a few weeks back beyond repair and are now waiting on the next shipment to arrive in May.

No fan boy, but I seriously considered other brands such as Hyundai, VW, Honda, Mercedes and even Renault before landing on the Tesla, but as mentioned Tesla was the only manufacturer that could deliver on time. Also not to mention the charging network that makes it. Having dabbled with some of the third party chargers (after downloading 5 different charging network apps on my phone and registering 5 different accounts), they're nowhere near as easy as a Tesla supercharger, which is literally plugin, charge and go - how it should be. I guess if you were to buy a non-Tesla, you'll just have to wait until Tesla's network opens up, which is not far off by the sounds of things.
stoney
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17816 posts since 22/1/05

28 Mar 2022 20:42
What about the jag ? Best car I’ve had.
stoney
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17816 posts since 22/1/05

28 Mar 2022 20:44
Would like the taycan or a defender next, mad lead times though all round.
sydneyking
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5238 posts since 26/9/09

28 Mar 2022 20:53
Defenders look ace, I prefer something with a bit more comfort on the interior though personally
stoney
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17816 posts since 22/1/05

29 Mar 2022 06:11
The one I went into in the showroom seems real refined inside, must be able to configure a nice interior.
swede
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10532 posts since 21/3/09

29 Mar 2022 07:22
RickRude wrote: Our neighbor has Mercedes EQC and looks average as well - nice wheels mind.

horrifically ugly cars
Kadafi39
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2198 posts since 30/10/09

posted 29 Mar 2022 09:45, edited 29 Mar 2022 09:45
RickRude wrote: Our neighbor has Mercedes EQC and looks average as well - nice wheels mind.

Those thin multi spoke concave ones? I have seen them and noticed the wheels too. However I quuite like the look of the eqc, its like a glc but slightly updated with a light bar etc. Looks decent imo.
sydneyking
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5238 posts since 26/9/09

29 Mar 2022 13:15
stoney wrote: The one I went into in the showroom seems real refined inside, must be able to configure a nice interior.

Yes I suspect so, the one I went in was a owned by a friend of a friend and the build quality was great it was just very utilitarian which I get is part of the appeal and the vehicles functionality
-DiscoTits-
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1001 posts since 26/11/07

posted 29 Mar 2022 14:40, edited 29 Mar 2022 14:40
Don’t buy anything with a Land Rover badge on it. They are horrendous for reliability and will just suck your bank account dry.
RickRude
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4206 posts since 13/1/12

29 Mar 2022 15:04
anyone seen them new Kia Sportage in real life - the pics look real cool.
stoney
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17816 posts since 22/1/05

29 Mar 2022 18:35
-DiscoTits- wrote: Don’t buy anything with a Land Rover badge on it. They are horrendous for reliability and will just suck your bank account dry.

This is a valid point.
Mr.X.
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3185 posts since 23/6/13

29 Mar 2022 19:57
I’ve had the Tesla 3 weeks. It’s been great, charging is very easy. I was initially against it because of tablet style screen and cheap looking emblem but I can live with it when everything else is a plus. Cameras are really high res - feels secure wherever you park it.

The Jag ev (e-pace) was way more £££s and less impressive. Porsche Taycan I can’t decide if I like the exterior styling. At 80k + it is way more than I could afford.