Random Questions: New Build Mortgages


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Serbia
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4928 posts since 22/3/06

17 Jan 2014 00:29
vaughty wrote:
Serbia wrote: what was the process vaughty, i.e did you apply for the loan yourself then approach the developers once it was granted? in central london the new build developers just wont look @ help to buy, only shared ownership schemes as the developer makes more

1) I went to see my mortgage broker to see what my affordability for a mortgage was (how much I could borrow) and whether I qualified for help-to-buy (I think just about anyone can get it so long as they're not part-ex'ing, the developer's signed up, and the property isn't over £600,000).
2) Once I knew I qualified for help-to-buy I went and found a house that I liked.
3) I stuck mine on the market and it sold in two days for the asking price.
4) Went and reserved the new build house (28 day reservation). The site office try and sell you their legals and mortgage services really hard. They told me I couldn't buy the house unless I used their solicitor. I said that wouldn't agree that as I own my own firm so I'm not likely to use someone else. They kept pushing so told them to stick it and I'd go and find somewhere else. Luckily they broke first cause my wife would've had my bollocks.
5) Once the deal was agreed I made the formal application to the Home and Communities Agency's agent (Orbit in my area) and within a couple of days it was approved.

(Sorry for the list just easier to break it down.)

That was about 8 weeks ago now and we still haven't exchanged as the developer's solicitors don't appear to know what they're doing (their transfer is all wrong and they can't seem to explain that to their client so they can get approval to change it), which is lucky really cause the bottom of my chain is a little way behind.

When you are in a chain the developer's don't normally stick to the 28 day exchange. They normally, in my experience, are happy to see that people are making good progress (instructing solicitors, applying for searches, mortgage in etc). They do put loads of pressure on though. I thought it'd be easy as I do this for a living but they are pretty incessant. Couple of times I've threatened to buy on a different site and that shuts them up for a while.

thanks for this, so it sounds like its about finding a decent broker, qualifying and then just approaching developers as and when
vaughty
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143 posts since 9/3/07

17 Jan 2014 07:04
Yeah, that's how I did it.

Don't go for a broker charges for helping you out, either at the time of the advice or on completion. You'll see when you get your mortgage offer that the lender will be paying them from about £500 upwards (depending on the value of your mortgage).
Serbia
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4928 posts since 22/3/06

24 Jan 2014 08:32
Nice - how much was your broker fees all in?
vaughty
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143 posts since 9/3/07

posted 24 Jan 2014 09:02, edited 24 Jan 2014 09:02
Didn't pay any. The broker I use gets his fee from the lender on completion. I am amazed at people who pay mortgage broker fees when the brokers get such a lot from the Lender. For instance my broker is getting £1000 just on the basis of arranging my Nationwide mortgage and I still get an extremely competitive rate (2.19%). I don't know how much he is getting from the Help-to-Buy agents (if anything at all).
JustinCredible
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1976 posts since 11/6/08

26 Jan 2014 18:40
Put deposit down today to reserve a plot on a new build (it's only at the foundations at the min, estimated move in date is May), part exchanging vs our property.

I think we got a pretty good deal, managed to get them to pay £10k more for our gaff than their first part ex offer and then also got them to pay 5% of the deposit on the new place. Took a couple of weeks of negotiating and pretending we were going to walk away despite the missus having her heart set on it so could have cost me my balls if they had called my bluff. Also got them to throw in carpets & vinyl for wet rooms so can't complain.

Just need to reign the missus in as the list of upgrades is endless and she's already moved in in her head, upgrading pretty much everything, £500 here and £750 there and it all needs paying for, up front on completion date…
EDW
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2565 posts since 23/2/10

26 Jan 2014 19:46
Nice one Justin, who is the developer?

I work for a high end house builder and we pretty much give our clients free reign on customer extras, not uncommon to see £40k+ of extras (upgraded kitchens, bathrooms, house alterations etc etc) mental money to have to pay in cash ontop of your mortgage + stamp duty on a £750k house.
JustinCredible
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1976 posts since 11/6/08

26 Jan 2014 21:08
Persimmon homes. The showhome is fantastic but as you said it literally has the highest spec of everything and probably costs a fortune when you tot them all up.

Our lass is already getting quotes for a conservatory and converting the garage into a "snug". Here's me thinking buy her a new build and nothing will need doing…
Noble Locks
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66963 posts since 10/7/03

26 Jan 2014 21:10
Best thing to do is to buy the showhome. My bird got the showhome down the road from me, all done, and in the proper bollocks.
JustinCredible
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1976 posts since 11/6/08

26 Jan 2014 21:41
Noble Locks wrote: Best thing to do is to buy the showhome. My bird got the showhome down the road from me, all done, and in the proper bollocks.
Cosigned, unfortunately in this case the show home was only a 3 bed although the downstairs was the business
San
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10457 posts since 14/11/05

26 Jan 2014 21:46
EDW - who do you work for and what area?
EDW
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2565 posts since 23/2/10

posted 26 Jan 2014 21:47, edited 26 Jan 2014 21:47
Nice one justin. Just a point to consider is to check the NHBC cover you get with your new build. Putting on a conservatory/alterations post completion (or not through the developer) can invalidate parts of the warranty/. Best to make sure you know where you stand with regards to this!

Just food for thought.

@san. I'm a qs for a regional house builder up here in Aberdeen. Build about 150 units a year circa £450k+