Random Questions: Palestine/Israel thread


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MuayThaiPimp
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7925 posts since 10/8/11

28 Jul 2014 13:01
Bigman jords heart is like his clothes black!
deuce
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13955 posts since 21/1/08

28 Jul 2014 14:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY
Double D
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3552 posts since 8/3/07

28 Jul 2014 16:31
deuce wrote:
thebigman wrote: Palestinians are being wiped out as a race right infront of our eyes and folk still can't see it
Puzzled the palestinian race? Puzzled
you've just said the most embarrassing thing in the whole thread, including my A+ for effort trolling comments
Most 'races' are socially defined and have nothing to do with biology, you might want to try going to college before you start making stupid semantical arguments about sociopolitics.
thebigman
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51 posts since 23/8/06

28 Jul 2014 17:22
Haha yes sir! Point was clarified, btw excellent article above @breckroadlover
shame
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1733 posts since 17/7/12

posted 29 Jul 2014 08:23, edited 29 Jul 2014 08:23
very good (objective) article.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-a-rizvi/post_8056_b_5602701.html

'Let's face it, the land belongs to both of them now. Israel was carved out of Palestine for Jews with help from the British in the late 1940s just like my own birthplace of Pakistan was carved out of India for Muslims around the same time. The process was painful, and displaced millions in both instances. But it's been almost 70 years. There are now at least two or three generations of Israelis who were born and raised in this land, to whom it really is a home, and who are often held accountable and made to pay for for historical atrocities that are no fault of their own. They are programmed to oppose "the other" just as Palestinian children are. At its very core, this is a tribal religious conflict that will never be resolved unless people stop choosing sides.
So you really don't have to choose between being "pro-Israel" or "pro-Palestine." If you support secularism, democracy, and a two-state solution – and you oppose Hamas, settlement expansion, and the occupation – you can be both.'

'If Israel wanted to kill civilians, it is terrible at it. ISIS killed more civilians in two days (700 plus) than Israel has in two weeks. Imagine if ISIS or Hamas had Israel's weapons, army, air force, US support, and nuclear arsenal. Their enemies would've been annihilated long ago. If Israel truly wanted to destroy Gaza, it could do so within a day, right from the air.'

'Israel is leading itself towards increasing international isolation and national suicide because of two things: 1. The occupation; and 2. Settlement expansion.
Settlement expansion is simply incomprehensible. No one really understands the point of it.'
deuce
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13955 posts since 21/1/08

29 Jul 2014 08:28
Double D wrote:
deuce wrote:
thebigman wrote: Palestinians are being wiped out as a race right infront of our eyes and folk still can't see it
Puzzled the palestinian race? Puzzled
you've just said the most embarrassing thing in the whole thread, including my A+ for effort trolling comments
Most 'races' are socially defined and have nothing to do with biology, you might want to try going to college before you start making stupid semantical arguments about sociopolitics.
we, the people of the working class race (socially defined different from middle and upper class) dunt have access to college. so i find that comment extremely racist
figurine
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5929 posts since 14/5/07

29 Jul 2014 08:46
I really hope Jordan is trolling here.
manula
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posted 29 Jul 2014 08:46, edited 29 Jul 2014 08:46
“Gaza is a graveyard,” sing joyful Israeli youths
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7qFACSfd_k
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/gaza-graveyard-sing-joyful-israeli-youths
Trystero
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1622 posts since 1/8/07

29 Jul 2014 08:54
shame wrote: very good (objective) article.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-a-rizvi/post_8056_b_5602701.html

you're clearly not very bright if you thought that piece of Israeli apologia was an objective article
deuce
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13955 posts since 21/1/08

posted 29 Jul 2014 09:12, edited 29 Jul 2014 09:12
figurine wrote: I really hope Jordan is trolling here.
me? trolling? never.

but srs, the palestinians arent a race, they're mostly arabs.

double d's post went full retard with;
Most 'races' are socially defined and have nothing to do with biology, you might want to try going to college before you start making stupid semantical arguments about sociopolitics.

i'd love to know why you think the palestinians are a race?
oh, and Laughing out loud again at you coming back with that paragraph Laughing out loud
palestine is a geographical area Laughing out loud
ismvil
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1469 posts since 16/9/11

29 Jul 2014 09:12
https://storify.com/davidsheen/israeli-army-the-next-generation

A bit fucking scary. Also you would def smash some of that.
figurine
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5929 posts since 14/5/07

29 Jul 2014 09:23
Jordan, race is a pretty loosely defined term

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_classification)
Race is a classification system used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation.
shame
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1733 posts since 17/7/12

29 Jul 2014 09:24
Trystero wrote:
shame wrote: very good (objective) article.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-a-rizvi/post_8056_b_5602701.html
you're clearly not very bright if you thought that piece of Israeli apologia was an objective article
isn't it cynical to go against the only article in here which (at least) reflect both sides?
deuce
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13955 posts since 21/1/08

29 Jul 2014 09:33
figurine wrote: Jordan, race is a pretty loosely defined term

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_classification)
Race is a classification system used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation.
that doesnt prove they're a race any more than it proves people from birmingham are a different race to scousers.

they're mainly arabs.

i cant believe we're actually discussing this Laughing out loud
Double D
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3552 posts since 8/3/07

29 Jul 2014 09:44
Thats a hilariously reductionist attitude, try applying it to Europeans.
breck
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939 posts since 5/3/09

29 Jul 2014 09:48
Survivors of massacre in Khuza’a say Israeli forces used Palestinians as human shields

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/survivors-massacre-palestinians.html
deuce
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13955 posts since 21/1/08

29 Jul 2014 09:54
Double D wrote: Thats a hilariously reductionist attitude, try applying it to Europeans.
so you're saying the palestinians are a race? just so im clear…
Double D
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3552 posts since 8/3/07

29 Jul 2014 10:27
Any group you can identify down to a single geographical region (Palestine) or religion (Judaism) can be a race. If you took an Israeli, a Palestinian, and yourself; for the purpose of genetic comparison you wouldn't find any conclusive differences, which is why race is primarily a sociological construct nowadays.
deuce
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13955 posts since 21/1/08

29 Jul 2014 10:31
tl:dr, was that a yes or a no?
breck
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29 Jul 2014 11:13
Double D wrote: Any group you can identify down to a single geographical region (Palestine) or religion (Judaism) can be a race. If you took an Israeli, a Palestinian, and yourself; for the purpose of genetic comparison you wouldn't find any conclusive differences, which is why race is primarily a sociological construct nowadays.

ignore him