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bertoni
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976 posts since 29/9/11

19 Nov 2018 13:54
@TIMDOT: That's a bit of a cliche mate Smiling
MLI
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4452 posts since 6/10/09

22 Nov 2018 06:45
figurine wrote:
MLI wrote: Why do you think someone in Brussels knows what's best for Ireland? Why is it fair that other countries subsidise yours?

Other countries don't subsidise mine, the UK is a net contributor to the EU. The past two years have also shown that the majority of local politicians, both in NI and Westminster, don't really know whats best for Ireland, EU historically has done a better job than either.

MLI wrote:
figurine wrote: Gender fluidity has occurred in many different cultures throughout history, there are multiple examples if you have a look around including Japan.

Yeah but the japs aren't going to let it influence its laws or youth culture. They aren't encouraging gay youth to get sex changes like they are in the west.

Noone is encouraging gay youth to get sex changes, you really should read up on stuff before going on ill informed rants on the internet.

They are in aus. Teachers are told to encourage it. Look up "safe schools". Extreme left propoganda forced into the classroom by the elites here. I'm sure it's happening in the UK too. The Army even pays for soldiers to get sex changes here.
figurine
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5747 posts since 14/5/07

22 Nov 2018 09:44
MLI wrote:
figurine wrote:
MLI wrote: Why do you think someone in Brussels knows what's best for Ireland? Why is it fair that other countries subsidise yours?

Other countries don't subsidise mine, the UK is a net contributor to the EU. The past two years have also shown that the majority of local politicians, both in NI and Westminster, don't really know whats best for Ireland, EU historically has done a better job than either.

MLI wrote:
figurine wrote: Gender fluidity has occurred in many different cultures throughout history, there are multiple examples if you have a look around including Japan.

Yeah but the japs aren't going to let it influence its laws or youth culture. They aren't encouraging gay youth to get sex changes like they are in the west.

Noone is encouraging gay youth to get sex changes, you really should read up on stuff before going on ill informed rants on the internet.

They are in aus. Teachers are told to encourage it. Look up "safe schools". Extreme left propoganda forced into the classroom by the elites here. I'm sure it's happening in the UK too. The Army even pays for soldiers to get sex changes here.

I did. Below is what I found here.

Fact: Nothing about the Safe Schools program encourages students to question or change their gender or sexuality.
RickRude
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3268 posts since 13/1/12

22 Nov 2018 15:36
surely by promoting gender theories that are controversial it encourages people to question their sexuality and gender more?
Rez
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7971 posts since 5/4/09

22 Nov 2018 15:56
What would be wrong with that
Rez
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7971 posts since 5/4/09

posted 22 Nov 2018 16:00, edited 22 Nov 2018 16:00
Bit of a cowardly question that, should just come out and say you don't think lgbt people should exist.

RickRude
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3268 posts since 13/1/12

22 Nov 2018 16:11
its in relation to this

Fact: Nothing about the Safe Schools program encourages students to question or change their gender or sexuality.
RickRude
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3268 posts since 13/1/12

22 Nov 2018 16:11
Rez wrote: Bit of a cowardly question that, should just come out and say you don't think lgbt people should exist.

how do you work that out
Rez
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7971 posts since 5/4/09

posted 22 Nov 2018 16:21, edited 22 Nov 2018 16:21
The thing Im confused about is…

Learning about something is of course going to open up the possibility of questioning your own experiences and whether it applies to your experiences, your place in the world and how it works. That's the point of learning about something, no?

So why conflate 'questioning' with 'encouragement' like that?
RickRude
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3268 posts since 13/1/12

posted 22 Nov 2018 16:29, edited 22 Nov 2018 16:29
Rez wrote: The thing Im confused about is…

Learning about something is of course going to open up the possibility of questioning your own experiences and whether it applies to your experiences, your place in the world and how it works. That's the point of learning about something, no?

So why conflate 'questioning' with 'encouragement' like that?

If you are confused - I cannot help that. But to imply that i'm saying LGBT people should not exist is another thing. I'm simply just asking Figurine a question based on him "FACT" checking.

It's a subject that divides opinion - and has both objective and subjective bias - stop virtue signalling.
Rez
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7971 posts since 5/4/09

22 Nov 2018 16:35
Nah, I just think when some people in here are already allowed to share opinions that read like Anders Brevik's manifesto in this thread, you should just go for it.

If you have a bee in your bonnet about kids being taught that trans is a thing, or think its some conspiracy to turn the kids trans (like Section 28 did with demonising gay people in the 80s), you should just come out and say your true beliefs.
figurine
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5747 posts since 14/5/07

22 Nov 2018 16:37
Wasn't me fact checking, I just did as MLI suggested and gave him the results.
krisricey
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1894 posts since 24/3/12

22 Nov 2018 16:48
Doing lots of work through Fiverr at the moment for music artwork, all of it pays me in USD which I transfer to a holding Paypal USD balance. Better to wait until post-brexit to cash out? Currently about $1000 in there which works out to £800 or so. Will cash out pre-Brexit if people reckon I'll get fucked.
RickRude
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3268 posts since 13/1/12

22 Nov 2018 16:52
Rez wrote: Nah, I just think when some people in here are already allowed to share opinions that read like Anders Brevik's manifesto in this thread, you should just go for it.

If you have a bee in your bonnet about kids being taught that trans is a thing, or think its some conspiracy to turn the kids trans (like Section 28 did with demonising gay people in the 80s), you should just come out and say your true beliefs.

Again - you are getting emotional, just be objective about it - I was simply replying to Figurine using the word "FACT" - which he has just again reinforced what he provided as FACT.

I have not applied any subjective thought on the matter - as I have nothing to add
figurine
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5747 posts since 14/5/07

22 Nov 2018 17:02
RickRude wrote:
Rez wrote: Nah, I just think when some people in here are already allowed to share opinions that read like Anders Brevik's manifesto in this thread, you should just go for it.

If you have a bee in your bonnet about kids being taught that trans is a thing, or think its some conspiracy to turn the kids trans (like Section 28 did with demonising gay people in the 80s), you should just come out and say your true beliefs.

Again - you are getting emotional, just be objective about it - I was simply replying to Figurine using the word "FACT" - which he has just again reinforced what he provided as FACT.

I have not applied any subjective thought on the matter - as I have nothing to add

Again I didn't use the word fact, the first result on Google for safe schools used the word fact. Have a look for yourself.
illwill
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3674 posts since 17/5/04

22 Nov 2018 17:03
krisricey wrote: Doing lots of work through Fiverr at the moment for music artwork, all of it pays me in USD which I transfer to a holding Paypal USD balance. Better to wait until post-brexit to cash out? Currently about $1000 in there which works out to £800 or so. Will cash out pre-Brexit if people reckon I'll get fucked.

Surely you'd be better off holding non-sterling currency?

Rez
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7971 posts since 5/4/09

posted 22 Nov 2018 17:05, edited 22 Nov 2018 17:05
Edit - can't be bothered interrogating this sentence any more, just think people should come out and say their beliefs tbh rather than be coy
RickRude
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3268 posts since 13/1/12

posted 22 Nov 2018 17:07, edited 22 Nov 2018 17:07
Fact: Nothing about the Safe Schools program encourages students to question or change their gender or sexuality.

I;m going off this which you used as evidence and it uses the word fact - I just questioned it - now Rez is saying I have a bee in my bonnet, i'm a coward and I don't think LGBT should exist.
krisricey
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1894 posts since 24/3/12

22 Nov 2018 17:09
illwill wrote: Surely you'd be better off holding non-sterling currency?

I think so too. But I'm the least politically/economically minded person ever. So good to hear from people who know their shit
Rez
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7971 posts since 5/4/09

22 Nov 2018 17:10
RickRude wrote:
Fact: Nothing about the Safe Schools program encourages students to question or change their gender or sexuality.

I;m going off this which you used as evidence and it uses the word fact - I just questioned it - now Rez is saying I have a bee in my bonnet, i'm a coward and I don't think LGBT shouldn't exist.

Care to share your opinion then…