posted 8 Aug 2019 12:08, edited 8 Aug 2019 12:08
Rez wrote: Always wondered how the anti immigrant/muslim lot feel when they see their politics mirrored in a shooter's manifesto like the one doing the rounds right now.
Does it make you think twice about where this type of thinking leads to?
Or do you just rationalise it as a lone nutter etc.
He was also an eco warrior too so let’s blame Thurnberg etc also for telling the world its coming to an end soon.
Also the second shooter was a certified Leftist. But let’s ignore that eh.
This tweet said it all:
Benny
@bennyjohnson
·
7 Aug
If you did not blame:
- Bernie for the Congressional Shooting
- Liz Warren for the Dayton Shooting
- Islam for the Pulse Nightclub, Chattanooga, San Bernardino, Ft Hood shooting
- Obama for Sandy Hook
But you totally blame Trump for El Paso - you are a hypocritical hack.
STOP!
8 Aug 2019 13:01
Yeah keen to understand that one further?
8 Aug 2019 13:19
If I've understood his post correctly, the shooters must've been left-leaning or something? He's saying if we blame Trump for right-leaning shooters then left politicians should be blamed for left-leaning shooters.
8 Aug 2019 14:34
But Trump uses rhetoric that demonises Hispanics, the target of the El Paso shooting. Adam Lanza wasn't a left leaning shooter either.
Rez
8543 posts since 5/4/09
posted 8 Aug 2019 14:43, edited 8 Aug 2019 14:43
Fudge why are you deflecting with the second shooting? Pretty sure it didn't have a manifesto or any stated political aim.
The first one did, and fits a pattern of stochastic terrorism from the far right.
Also eco fascism is still fascism, come on.
You know full well the shooter used the same rhetoric that's common on the far right.
Rez
8543 posts since 5/4/09
8 Aug 2019 16:04
he's got a major case of the boomer brain
posted 8 Aug 2019 16:05, edited 8 Aug 2019 16:05
illwill wrote: Quoting some right-wing twitter plagiarist nutjob says it all
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson
posted 8 Aug 2019 20:11, edited 8 Aug 2019 20:11
Connor Betts, the Dayton, Ohio mass shooter, was a self-described “leftist,” who wrote that he would happily vote for Democrat Elizabeth Warren, praised Satan, was upset about the 2016 presidential election results, and added, “I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding.”
Betts’ Twitter profile read, “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.” One tweet on his page read, “Off to Midnight Mass. At least the songs are good. #athiestsonchristmas.” The page handle? I am the spookster. On one selfie, he included the hashtags, “#selfie4satan #HailSatan @SatanTweeting.”
I am not deflecting.
MLI
5173 posts since 6/10/09
8 Aug 2019 20:44
The El Paso shooter was a registered Democrat but his details on facebook were changed after the shooting to republican. Google the screen shots.
Rez
8543 posts since 5/4/09
posted 8 Aug 2019 22:56, edited 8 Aug 2019 22:56
Also of course youre fucking deflecting.
I ask whether a guy who drove eight hours to kill brown people for a specific political purpose, who cites similar rhetoric that you do, makes you think twice about your anti immigrant views.
Instead you talk about a shooter that killed his sister, her bf and anyone else at the scene, for some reason that no-one's clear on yet, and equate the two to make a point, as if they're equal?
You're equating an actual terrorist manifesto with twitter and social media faves?
Surely you must realise you're a bit too far gone this internet hole.
Dont you think this is a bit weird and disingenuous?
Bad faith childish bullshit imo.
Dee
11951 posts since 22/11/07
9 Aug 2019 07:33
Although you can’t claim with certainty that Trumps words have been responsible for the actions of white supremacist shooters, the bigger problem is that you can’t claim with any confidence that they haven’t.
Dee
11951 posts since 22/11/07
9 Aug 2019 07:57
moot point then?