What amount of Carbon Dioxide emissions are the fires in the Amazon estimated to be producing daily?
What are the global daily total Carbon emissions from everything else?
What are the global daily total Carbon emissions from everything else?
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28 Aug 2019 07:49
28 Aug 2019 08:01
28 Aug 2019 08:11
The issue is not so much the oxygen as the carbon absorption and retention. Trees absorb carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas affecting recent climate change. As The Guardian article addresses in the very next point.
28 Aug 2019 08:21
Okay I got the total from the fires.
Vice said: https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/wjw5bb/the-amazon-wildfires-arent-natural-blame-humans
"According to Parrington, fires in the Amazon release an average of 500-600 metric tons of carbon dioxide over the course of a typical year. In 2019 so far, they’ve already released 200 metric tons of the greenhouse gas. According to the Global Fire Emissions Database, 8,668 fires have been detected in Amazonas as of Monday. That exceeds the past few years, and falls just short of the 2016 high of 8,836."
So August 2019 200 metric tons released (below average?) So about 240 days = 0.83 tons of carbon/day
So the earth produces 2.23 billion tonnes of carbon a day and the fires are adding another 0.83 tonnes.
That's an extra 3.721973094170404e-10 percentage of global carbon!!!
Holy shit! Evacuate the planet!!
28 Aug 2019 08:25
Okay I got the total from the fires.
Vice said: https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/wjw5bb/the-amazon-wildfires-arent-natural-blame-humans
"According to Parrington, fires in the Amazon release an average of 500-600 metric tons of carbon dioxide over the course of a typical year. In 2019 so far, they’ve already released 200 metric tons of the greenhouse gas. According to the Global Fire Emissions Database, 8,668 fires have been detected in Amazonas as of Monday. That exceeds the past few years, and falls just short of the 2016 high of 8,836."
So August 2019 200 metric tons released (below average?) So about 240 days = 0.83 tons of carbon/day
So the earth produces 2.23 billion tonnes of carbon a day and the fires are adding another 0.83 tonnes.
That's an extra 3.721973094170404e-10 percentage of global carbon!!!
Holy shit! Evacuate the planet!!That's some seriously ropey maths.
posted 28 Aug 2019 22:13, edited 28 Aug 2019 22:13
29 Aug 2019 05:32
29 Aug 2019 06:03
In 2013 a study showed 97% of the worlds publishing climate change scientists across 12,000 academic papers agreed that humans are causing global warming and climate change. Further studies show that figure has now likely increased to 99%.
That isn’t “group think” or “arrogance” or any other term you want to label it, it’s called being presented with the evidence and drawing a conclusion from that evidence. If the evidence changes expect “leftists” to change their minds.
29 Aug 2019 07:36
How do you define mainstream media?
How do you define non-mainstream media?
Is a media source less accurate or trustworthy if more people consume it?
Is a media source more accurate or trustworthy if less people consume it?
What checks do you make to ensure that what you're listening to or reading is accurate and backed up by facts?
What's your opinion on peer-reviewed academic research?
posted 29 Aug 2019 08:48, edited 29 Aug 2019 08:48
How do you know this? Has it ever happened before in history? Has more carbon ever turned a forest into a desert?
Far as I can tell more carbon = thriving plant life. We should be pumping that shit into the atmosphere as fast as we can.
I wouldn't mind some actual global warming, we had another cold ass winter down here in Aus. I leave my lights on, run my vaccuum cleaner all day while I'm at work, I do my bit but it's still cold as hell.
29 Aug 2019 09:32
It's almost as if people research and keep up with what is happening in the world. You don't have to be an expert to understand what is happening. Some of us learned how to learn. You should try it some time.
I got the global total from here:
https://whatsyourimpact.org/greenhouse-gases/carbon-dioxide-emissions
870 billion tonnes a year = 2.23 billion tonnes per day
https://whatsyourimpact.org/greenhouse-gases/carbon-dioxide-emissions
870 billion tonnes a year = 2.23 billion tonnes per day
Look also at the impact those fires are having on bio diversity and the indigenous population as I think Essex mentioned.
You’re right to want to know what the emissions level is as evidently it’s cause for concern, however you can’t compare one nation with the rest of the world.
Trump has unwittingly paved the way for climate change reform as economic sanctions are much more palatable now in light of trumps trade wars.
You’re right to want to know what the emissions level is as evidently it’s cause for concern, however you can’t compare one nation with the rest of the world.
Trump has unwittingly paved the way for climate change reform as economic sanctions are much more palatable now in light of trumps trade wars.
I dont read Guardian articles lad.
In fact the following comes from a Guardian article
Although some reports have claimed the Amazon produces 20% of the world’s oxygen, it is not clear where this figure originated. The true figure is likely to be no more than 6%
The issue is not so much the oxygen as the carbon absorption and retention. Trees absorb carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas affecting recent climate change. As The Guardian article addresses in the very next point.
So should we still be concerned?
Extremely. The fires are mostly illegal and they are degrading the world’s biggest terrestrial carbon sink and most important home for biodiversity.
Extremely. The fires are mostly illegal and they are degrading the world’s biggest terrestrial carbon sink and most important home for biodiversity.
Secondly, we have more trees now in the world than we did 35 years ago. In fact, more by over 2 million square KM.
That "greening", however, masks the ecological impacts of replacing diverse natural landscapes with monoculture crops. So while Earth may presently have more trees than 35 years ago, the study confirms that some of its most productive and biodiverse biomes - especially tropical forests and savannas[sic] - are significantly more damaged and degraded, reducing their resilience and capacity to afford ecosystem services.
I got the global total from here:
https://whatsyourimpact.org/greenhouse-gases/carbon-dioxide-emissions
870 billion tonnes a year = 2.23 billion tonnes per day
https://whatsyourimpact.org/greenhouse-gases/carbon-dioxide-emissions
870 billion tonnes a year = 2.23 billion tonnes per day
Okay I got the total from the fires.
Vice said: https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/wjw5bb/the-amazon-wildfires-arent-natural-blame-humans
"According to Parrington, fires in the Amazon release an average of 500-600 metric tons of carbon dioxide over the course of a typical year. In 2019 so far, they’ve already released 200 metric tons of the greenhouse gas. According to the Global Fire Emissions Database, 8,668 fires have been detected in Amazonas as of Monday. That exceeds the past few years, and falls just short of the 2016 high of 8,836."
So August 2019 200 metric tons released (below average?) So about 240 days = 0.83 tons of carbon/day
So the earth produces 2.23 billion tonnes of carbon a day and the fires are adding another 0.83 tonnes.
That's an extra 3.721973094170404e-10 percentage of global carbon!!!
Holy shit! Evacuate the planet!!
I got the global total from here:
https://whatsyourimpact.org/greenhouse-gases/carbon-dioxide-emissions
870 billion tonnes a year = 2.23 billion tonnes per day
https://whatsyourimpact.org/greenhouse-gases/carbon-dioxide-emissions
870 billion tonnes a year = 2.23 billion tonnes per day
Okay I got the total from the fires.
Vice said: https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/wjw5bb/the-amazon-wildfires-arent-natural-blame-humans
"According to Parrington, fires in the Amazon release an average of 500-600 metric tons of carbon dioxide over the course of a typical year. In 2019 so far, they’ve already released 200 metric tons of the greenhouse gas. According to the Global Fire Emissions Database, 8,668 fires have been detected in Amazonas as of Monday. That exceeds the past few years, and falls just short of the 2016 high of 8,836."
So August 2019 200 metric tons released (below average?) So about 240 days = 0.83 tons of carbon/day
So the earth produces 2.23 billion tonnes of carbon a day and the fires are adding another 0.83 tonnes.
That's an extra 3.721973094170404e-10 percentage of global carbon!!!
Holy shit! Evacuate the planet!!
I just think leftists have a certain arrogance to them… their worldview seems to come from the viewpoint of ‘i’m right and possess the only knowledge that’s worth knowing and anyone who thinks otherwise is dumb, deluded and/or just a right wing nazi’.
You’re all literally brainwashed by the mainstream media. Taught and told how and what to think.
It’s quite pathetic really.
PS: and I only posted the link to the guardian article so as to point to prove that even a paper like that would post something so fundamental and truthful, against the Groupthink that’s generally promoted. The irony was entirely on purpose but I guess it went over your heads… wow.
You’re all literally brainwashed by the mainstream media. Taught and told how and what to think.
It’s quite pathetic really.
PS: and I only posted the link to the guardian article so as to point to prove that even a paper like that would post something so fundamental and truthful, against the Groupthink that’s generally promoted. The irony was entirely on purpose but I guess it went over your heads… wow.
Leftists only a step away from libtards. What’s pathetic is that you sound like sound fat 60 yo ranting on Facebook.
Milspex, if we take your math as correct (which is a big leap) you have to understand the nuances of how the Amazon operates. The Amazon will have a point where it is no longer self sustaining and will tip over in to a spiral of desertification which will lead to a savannah like terrain killing the biodiversity and carbon sucking potential. Also even a smallish percentage is terrible omgz evacuate the planet when we’re already on course to overshoot the safe global climate targets
only a step away from libtards. What’s pathetic is that you sound like sound fat 60 yo ranting on Facebook.Milspex, if we take your math as correct (which is a big leap) you have to understand the nuances of how the Amazon operates. The Amazon will have a point where it is no longer self sustaining and will tip over in to a spiral of desertification which will lead to a savannah like terrain killing the biodiversity and carbon sucking potential. Also even a smallish percentage is terrible omgz evacuate the planet when we’re already on course to overshoot the safe global climate targets
^ yep so cool with that little emoji. Proving my point again.
In 2013 a study showed 97% of the worlds publishing climate change scientists across 12,000 academic papers agreed that humans are causing global warming and climate change. Further studies show that figure has now likely increased to 99%.
That isn’t “group think” or “arrogance” or any other term you want to label it, it’s called being presented with the evidence and drawing a conclusion from that evidence. If the evidence changes expect “leftists” to change their minds.
You’re all literally brainwashed by the mainstream media. Taught and told how and what to think.
It’s quite pathetic really.
It’s quite pathetic really.
How do you define mainstream media?
How do you define non-mainstream media?
Is a media source less accurate or trustworthy if more people consume it?
Is a media source more accurate or trustworthy if less people consume it?
What checks do you make to ensure that what you're listening to or reading is accurate and backed up by facts?
What's your opinion on peer-reviewed academic research?
The Amazon will have a point where it is no longer self sustaining and will tip over in to a spiral of desertification which will lead to a savannah like terrain killing the biodiversity and carbon sucking potential. Also even a smallish percentage is terrible omgz evacuate the planet when we’re already on course to overshoot the safe global climate targets
How do you know this? Has it ever happened before in history? Has more carbon ever turned a forest into a desert?
Far as I can tell more carbon = thriving plant life. We should be pumping that shit into the atmosphere as fast as we can.
I wouldn't mind some actual global warming, we had another cold ass winter down here in Aus. I leave my lights on, run my vaccuum cleaner all day while I'm at work, I do my bit but it's still cold as hell.
It’s funny how everyone is either a global warming expert or Amazonian rainforest expert now. Let’s see what happens next month and everyone will become an expert on the topic of the day.
It's almost as if people research and keep up with what is happening in the world. You don't have to be an expert to understand what is happening. Some of us learned how to learn. You should try it some time.
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