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joeyjojo
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3981 posts since 24/8/06

4 Sep 2019 08:51
Believe there are two sexes has gotta be the stupidest!
nothingelseworked
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3274 posts since 21/2/10

4 Sep 2019 09:27
Anyone else get the feeling things unfolded the way BJ wanted last night?

He's putting 0 effort into getting a deal. His Brexit team is something like half the size May's was. JRM spent all of the debate last night trying to goad someone into a VoNC.

I expect the strategy is:
- Show BXP voters he's doing everything he can do ensure No Deal so they sympathise with his position
- Push opposers of No Deal to the brink so they vote for a FTA GE or VoNC
- We go to a GE and BXP voters either believe BJ's No Deal dreams and vote Con or BXP secures a decent number of seats and form coalition with Cons
Rez
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7960 posts since 5/4/09

4 Sep 2019 13:15
Don't think it's that complicated, BJ and Cummings have overplayed their hand and fucked it.
ismvil
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651 posts since 16/9/11

4 Sep 2019 13:18
Pretty much this
Rez wrote: Don't think it's that complicated, BJ and Cummings have overplayed their hand and fucked it.
Dee
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11196 posts since 22/11/07

4 Sep 2019 13:23
He's going for a VONC isn't he, deal with Farage and take a majority from a GE?
sydneyking
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4559 posts since 26/9/09

4 Sep 2019 13:29
It’s a massive gamble. He’s potentially turning off traditional conservative voters to chase those votes he might lose to the Brexit party. He could still take a majority however if the remain parties stay divided
Trumps
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624 posts since 7/9/09

4 Sep 2019 14:17
The Brexit Party said they’d only step aside in contested seats if Johnson had secured a no deal Brexit. So we can count on the Brexit vote being split in many seats if this bill passes today and the GE occurs after Oct 31

The last by election shows how that goes.
fudge.dredd
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709 posts since 15/12/12

4 Sep 2019 14:27
Maybe you should have been aborted.
Rez
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7960 posts since 5/4/09

4 Sep 2019 14:30
Who are you even talking to fudge Laughing out loud
fudge.dredd
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709 posts since 15/12/12

posted 4 Sep 2019 14:34, edited 4 Sep 2019 14:34
^ Ha I think I’ve skipped a whole page of comments Laughing out loud

Discotits you do realise that Scandinavian countries arent really socialist in the way you would like them to be seen. The means of production are not owned by the government but by private individuals and resources aren’t allocated by governments either.

The only thing they may have in common with your ideals is a generous social safety net and universal healthcare but this is also impacted by the fact that these countries are very small in population and very stringent upon who they let in, not to mention the very high rates of tax.

In fact the Danish Prime Minister once said at a Harvard speech:

“I know that some people in the US associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. Therefore I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy.”

Link: https://www.thelocal.dk/20151101/danish-pm-in-us-denmark-is-not-socialist

My wife is danish and I’ve spent quite a bit of time in Denmark and Sweden so I’ve seen this firsthand.

Edit: and I was talking to Fig but it was a little harsh so I apologise.
joeyjojo
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3981 posts since 24/8/06

4 Sep 2019 14:42
That’s not true about Sweden … don’t they let in the most amount of immigrants per capita in the world ?

You’re married to a Dane with your attitude ?!? She must think you’re such a twat! Laughing out loud
figurine
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5736 posts since 14/5/07

4 Sep 2019 14:53
fudge.dredd wrote: Maybe you should have been aborted.
Ouch.

How can you believe in minimising the reach of government, including into private lives but are against abortion? Do you not see the clear contradiction there?
fudge.dredd
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709 posts since 15/12/12

4 Sep 2019 14:54
I understand what you mean but I’m just against killing babies. They’re not foetus’s, they’re babies.

I’m sure we all have crossed beliefs in some areas, but I would like to just not see baby’s being killed in the womb.
fudge.dredd
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709 posts since 15/12/12

4 Sep 2019 14:55
joeyjojo wrote: That’s not true about Sweden … don’t they let in the most amount of immigrants per capita in the world ?

You’re married to a Dane with your attitude ?!? She must think you’re such a twat! Laughing out loud

She does indeed ha
fudge.dredd
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709 posts since 15/12/12

4 Sep 2019 14:57
figurine wrote:
fudge.dredd wrote: Maybe you should have been aborted.
Ouch.

Yeah apologies, no need for silly statements like that mate. All good
fudge.dredd
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709 posts since 15/12/12

4 Sep 2019 14:59
joeyjojo wrote: That’s not true about Sweden … don’t they let in the most amount of immigrants per capita in the world ?

They do indeed and we can all see how that’s panning out as we speak…

Is it now the highest rapes per capita in the world behind South Africa or something? Not quite sure but something alarming like that.
Rirawin
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9234 posts since 17/7/05

posted 4 Sep 2019 15:23, edited 4 Sep 2019 15:23
Thought this study was interesting enough to share https://www.psypost.org/2019/09/people-with-lower-emotional-intelligence-are-more-likely-to-hold-right-wing-views-study-finds-54369

Link to research journal: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2018-41368-001

Non-MSM and not Guardian. Pro-Science though, which some may not like.
fudge.dredd
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709 posts since 15/12/12

4 Sep 2019 15:27
There’s another study that shows those who hold left wing views generally grow out of them by the time they hit their mid thirties. Or they should. Roll Eyes
illwill
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3657 posts since 17/5/04

4 Sep 2019 15:47
Rez wrote: Who are you even talking to fudge Laughing out loud

His stepdad
fudge.dredd
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709 posts since 15/12/12

4 Sep 2019 16:44
Very good.