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JustinCredible
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6 Sep 2019 11:52
See Rees-Mogg has been forced to apologise Laughing out loud Absolute helmet
morning mist
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3127 posts since 29/5/05

6 Sep 2019 18:33
fudge.dredd wrote:
joeyjojo wrote: That’s not true about Sweden … don’t they let in the most amount of immigrants per capita in the world ?

They do indeed and we can all see how that’s panning out as we speak…

Is it now the highest rapes per capita in the world behind South Africa or something? Not quite sure but something alarming like that.

Racist garbage as usual from you.

Differences in reported crime across countries are usually related to different reporting rates by victims (and/or detection by the police). Also different definitions of criminal offences by countries, and different counting rules, make comparisons difficult.

When a woman comes to the police and says ’my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year’, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events for example. In many other countries it would just be one record.

In 2005, Sweden broadened its definition of rape. The word ”rape” can since then be used to record acts which would be called assault or bodily harm in other countries. That led to an increase in the number of rapes reported in the country in the years following the law change.



MLI
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4349 posts since 6/10/09

8 Sep 2019 11:13
figurine wrote: MLI has to be parody, noone can be that dumb.


, cunt
fudge.dredd
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551 posts since 15/12/12

posted 9 Sep 2019 10:53, edited 9 Sep 2019 10:53
morning mist wrote:
fudge.dredd wrote:
joeyjojo wrote: That’s not true about Sweden … don’t they let in the most amount of immigrants per capita in the world ?

They do indeed and we can all see how that’s panning out as we speak…

Is it now the highest rapes per capita in the world behind South Africa or something? Not quite sure but something alarming like that.

Racist garbage as usual from you.

Differences in reported crime across countries are usually related to different reporting rates by victims (and/or detection by the police). Also different definitions of criminal offences by countries, and different counting rules, make comparisons difficult.

When a woman comes to the police and says ’my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year’, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events for example. In many other countries it would just be one record.

In 2005, Sweden broadened its definition of rape. The word ”rape” can since then be used to record acts which would be called assault or bodily harm in other countries. That led to an increase in the number of rapes reported in the country in the years following the law change.

Firstly, may I ask what race I am racist against?

Secondly Sweden itself is now no longer publishing nationalities of rapists. This in itself poses the question of why?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/swedish-police-are-not-allowed-to-give-descriptions-of-alleged-criminals-so-as-not-to-sound-racist-a6810311.html

But overall I think you’d have to be blind not to see the correlation between unchecked immigration from countries where human rights are not as respected into countries with relatively small populations, and the increase in gun and sexual violence. To just look the other way and say ‘it’s reported differently’ is just being an apologist.

I bet you’re the kind of guy that would hold up a plane because a rapist was being deported back to Somalia or somewhere.

Where you get your morals from I have no idea.

Edit: oh and I like how you’ve quoted almost word for word from a Swedish government website (of course they would defend their figures) and not just posted it directly.


fudge.dredd
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551 posts since 15/12/12

posted 9 Sep 2019 12:49, edited 9 Sep 2019 12:49
Lefties really are just parrots.

And the following from Wikipedia:

In August 2018, SVT reported that rape statistics in Sweden show that 58% of men convicted of rape and attempted rape over the past five years were immigrants born outside of the European Union: Southern Africans, Northern Africans, Arabs, Middle Easterns, and Afghans.[11][12] Swedish Television's investigating journalists found that in cases where the victims didn't know the attackers, the proportion of foreign-born sex offenders was more than 80%.[11] The number of rapes reported to the authorities in Sweden significantly increased[4] by 10% in 2017,[13][14] according to latest preliminary figures from the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention.[13][14] The number of reported rape cases was 73 per 100,000 citizens in 2017, up 24% in the past decade.[14] Official numbers show that the incidence of sexual offences is on the rise;[4][11][14] the Swedish Government has declared that young women are facing the greatest risks and that most of the cases go unreported.[4]
morning mist
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3127 posts since 29/5/05

9 Sep 2019 13:19
my whole post minus the 'racist garbage' part was cut and paste because that is how much i care about continuing discussing with you.

Fact is those are the laws in Sweden and that is how we collect our data. End of story.
Crackajack
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7058 posts since 21/4/05

9 Sep 2019 13:26
Are you saying that people from those countries/areas shouldn't be allowed to emigrate / seek asylum on the basis of a propensity to commit crimes then?
fudge.dredd
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551 posts since 15/12/12

9 Sep 2019 13:56
Lol the classic ‘so what you’re saying is……’

No I’m not saying that. I’m saying that there is a correlation between the two.

Make of that what you will.

I’m saying every country should have stringent laws on who they allow in. And that information should be shared between countries. The whole point of Trump’s ban on people from the 4-5 countries was because their respective governments wouldn’t share information on the backgrounds of the people that were coming in.

If you’re guilty of certain crimes, you don’t get into the USA. We need to apply more of that sort of policy in Europe.
fudge.dredd
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551 posts since 15/12/12

9 Sep 2019 13:57
morning mist wrote: my whole post minus the 'racist garbage' part was cut and paste because that is how much i care about continuing discussing with you.

Fact is those are the laws in Sweden and that is how we collect our data. End of story.

Ps: you still haven’t told me who I’m racist against.
morning mist
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3127 posts since 29/5/05

9 Sep 2019 14:18
a one winged parrot flies in circles

peace
fudge.dredd
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551 posts since 15/12/12

9 Sep 2019 14:35
No debate? Thought as much. Just repeat the usual trope with no thinking of your own behind it. Copying and pasting from government sites.

Man, I feel for you.
morning mist
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3127 posts since 29/5/05

9 Sep 2019 14:50
i know what you are, but what am i?
deuce
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13644 posts since 21/1/08

9 Sep 2019 15:06
morning mist wrote: i know what you are, but what am i?
racist
morning mist
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3127 posts since 29/5/05

posted 9 Sep 2019 15:08, edited 9 Sep 2019 15:08
deuce wrote: racist

i know what you are, but what am i?
fudge.dredd
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551 posts since 15/12/12

posted 9 Sep 2019 15:54, edited 9 Sep 2019 15:54
Still waiting to hear who I’m racist against.

You can’t post a charge like that without backing it up.

That would be akin to me calling you a paedophile. Not nice is it?
morning mist
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3127 posts since 29/5/05

9 Sep 2019 23:12
fudge.dredd wrote: Still waiting to hear who I’m racist against.

You can’t post a charge like that without backing it up.

That would be akin to me calling you a paedophile. Not nice is it?

Yeah I can, like when you called all democrats and "lefties" racists and/or fascists. I only called you racist.

Because you are.

morning mist
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3127 posts since 29/5/05

9 Sep 2019 23:23
Funny you would bring up paedophilia, a psychiatric disorder which can be directly harmful towards children, and you compared it with……gender identity.

So let's add bigot.

You are a racist and a bigot.
fudge.dredd
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551 posts since 15/12/12

posted 9 Sep 2019 23:44, edited 9 Sep 2019 23:44
Fuck, now paedophilia is psychiatric disorder?

I’ve heard it all now.

I’m glad to be a bigot, I’m just sorry I offended you, Jimmy Saville.

Now fuck off.
morning mist
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3127 posts since 29/5/05

10 Sep 2019 00:18
Lets add hypocrite to the list

Racist, bigot and a hypocrite
fudge.dredd
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551 posts since 15/12/12

10 Sep 2019 00:43
Are you a paedophile?

Genuine question.