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MLI
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4603 posts since 6/10/09

31 Oct 2019 19:22



Did they not drop a couple of hundred thousand troops in Saudi Arabia to protect their investments in oil? Did that not put Saudi Arabia in dept to the US? Did they not repay parts of that dept by buying a massive amount off weapons from the US? Did they not pay the rest of that dept by supporting the US in backing them in the peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians?

Did the Saudis not welcome them in '90 because they feared invasion from Iraq as well? I think it was a two way street or are you saying the US forced Saudi to be the springboard for it's liberation of Kuwait? Interesting, you're simpler than I thought.

morning mist wrote: Also, after Vietnam the American military might was in question. Desert Storm was a show of force, Bush even stated that "new world order has begun".

That was the same force that stared down the Soviets and saved Europe from the Commies without firing a shot. Damn straight it was the most mighty force ever fielded. You should be damn glad the US is on your side with the rise of China.
morning mist
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3176 posts since 29/5/05

31 Oct 2019 20:19
I just said they where in debt because of the help from american troops, what are you talking about? Laughing out loud Laughing out loud

you said they got nothing in return for their help in protecting oil interests, but clearly they did.

stoney
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17440 posts since 22/1/05

4 Nov 2019 20:13
Why has the cunt farrago decided to help Corbyn ? Diluting Tory vote can only help labour. I guess what else could he do, but what he has done make a no brexit much more likely that the Jhonson brexit. Won’t stand as an MP either. Just a heckler now that will retreat to the USA.
fudge.dredd
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958 posts since 15/12/12

posted 15 Nov 2019 11:52, edited 15 Nov 2019 11:52
So……. free broadband for everyone, mass nationalisation and 4 day working weeks…. what could possibly go wrong….

MoB
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36761 posts since 31/8/04

15 Nov 2019 11:56
they should start trying to get decent wifi on trains before trying to get free wifi
Byte
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2929 posts since 16/6/10

15 Nov 2019 12:02
Free broadband… by 2030 Roll Eyes

Would be better to accelerate 5G rollout. UK is small enough that it's viable the whole country could have internet coverage.
fudge.dredd
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958 posts since 15/12/12

posted 15 Nov 2019 12:02, edited 15 Nov 2019 12:02
Oh don't worry, the comrade coming to install it won't be with you until 2028 or something i would have thought.

And we’ll each get our 10 minute slot to browse the few state controlled sites. Guardian, BBC news, Venezuelan Times…… should be a blast.
Rez
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8026 posts since 5/4/09

15 Nov 2019 12:19
Why are you so obsessed with Venezuela Dredd?
Razorlight123
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4520 posts since 13/1/10

15 Nov 2019 13:13
Byte wrote: Free broadband… by 2030 Roll Eyes

Would be better to accelerate 5G rollout. UK is small enough that it's viable the whole country could have internet coverage.

It will be subsidised but, very basic - which I assume many will not go for.
-DiscoTits-
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757 posts since 26/11/07

15 Nov 2019 13:41
Meanwhile…. all the conservatives can seem to come up with are a bunch of lies and half truths about their own politics and they haven’t even been able to speak about their own policies or manifesto yet. All they do is try to deflect away to other parties plans. When their manifesto is published, it will no doubt be uncosted and if we do end up with another 5 years of conservative rule then say goodbye to the NHS as we know it(worst A and E wait times in 15 years). If your kids happen to be in a state school etc then don’t expect them to be leaving with any form of a decent education due to such severe cuts to public services. It’s great being under a conservative government who continue to blame labour for all the U.K. problems despite having been in power for 9 years eh?
fudge.dredd
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958 posts since 15/12/12

posted 15 Nov 2019 13:52, edited 15 Nov 2019 13:52
Rez wrote: Why are you so obsessed with Venezuela Dredd?

Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba, Chile, Uruguay, North Korea, Equador, El Salvador, I just find them interesting modern day case studies.

And I also find it quite scary that we might have a new prime minister who embraces the policies of some of the ‘leaders’ of these counties … don’t you…?
fudge.dredd
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958 posts since 15/12/12

posted 15 Nov 2019 13:59, edited 15 Nov 2019 13:59
-DiscoTits- wrote: Meanwhile…. all the conservatives can seem to come up with are a bunch of lies and half truths about their own politics and they haven’t even been able to speak about their own policies or manifesto yet. All they do is try to deflect away to other parties plans. When their manifesto is published, it will no doubt be uncosted and if we do end up with another 5 years of conservative rule then say goodbye to the NHS as we know it(worst A and E wait times in 15 years). If your kids happen to be in a state school etc then don’t expect them to be leaving with any form of a decent education due to such severe cuts to public services. It’s great being under a conservative government who continue to blame labour for all the U.K. problems despite having been in power for 9 years eh?

Whereas in Cuba they have approx 99% literacy rate… but then what? Can’t leave the country and have to queue to get some toilet paper?

Make no mistake, I’m no great lover of the tories. No system is perfect of course. But this Labour Party now is probably the most dangerous in my lifetime.
misled
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4257 posts since 3/1/02

15 Nov 2019 14:09
fudge.dredd wrote:
-DiscoTits- wrote: Meanwhile…. all the conservatives can seem to come up with are a bunch of lies and half truths about their own politics and they haven’t even been able to speak about their own policies or manifesto yet. All they do is try to deflect away to other parties plans. When their manifesto is published, it will no doubt be uncosted and if we do end up with another 5 years of conservative rule then say goodbye to the NHS as we know it(worst A and E wait times in 15 years). If your kids happen to be in a state school etc then don’t expect them to be leaving with any form of a decent education due to such severe cuts to public services. It’s great being under a conservative government who continue to blame labour for all the U.K. problems despite having been in power for 9 years eh?

Whereas in Cuba they have approx 99% literacy rate… but then what? Can’t leave the country and have to queue to get some toilet paper?

you are the king of whataboutery. how would we end up like Cuba exactly?
swede
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8230 posts since 21/3/09

15 Nov 2019 15:25
fudge.dredd wrote: And we’ll each get our 10 minute slot to browse the few state controlled sites. Guardian, BBC news, Venezuelan Times…… should be a blast.

Laughing out loud this did tickle me tbf
nothingelseworked
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3354 posts since 21/2/10

posted 15 Nov 2019 16:08, edited 15 Nov 2019 16:08
Clown Laughing out loud

Edit: And look at this stooge ffs

-DiscoTits-
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757 posts since 26/11/07

15 Nov 2019 16:38
Laura Kuenssberg has never really tried to hide the fact she's a tory.
-DiscoTits-
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757 posts since 26/11/07

15 Nov 2019 16:39
Also…. if you're thinking of voting Tory at this election then do some serious thought as to whether you endorse this fucking idiot and his viewpoints….

https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/15/tommy-robinson-endorses-boris-johnson-prime-minister-11163778/
joeyjojo
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4073 posts since 24/8/06

posted 15 Nov 2019 18:38, edited 15 Nov 2019 18:38
I’ll be voting via post for Corbyn and if any of you don’t you’ll be as thick as fudge or mil or Essex
EssexBoyII
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6587 posts since 5/6/07

15 Nov 2019 18:40
Here come the forum door knockers
morning mist
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3176 posts since 29/5/05

15 Nov 2019 18:41
fudge.dredd wrote: So……. free broadband for everyone, mass nationalisation and 4 day working weeks…. what could possibly go wrong….

https://www.businessinsider.com/economists-its-time-to-switch-to-a-four-day-working-week-2019-2?r=US&IR;=T