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14 Dec 2019 18:32
You get hated on because you regularly make incredibly hateful statements regarding millions of people and/or entire countries. In all my years on fuk nobody else come close to the amount of hate you spew on here, regardless of political view.
The left is very good at dishing it out but can never take it in return…
May I ask what millions of people and countries I’ve denigrated? It’s better to be specific.
posted 14 Dec 2019 19:02, edited 14 Dec 2019 19:02
14 Dec 2019 19:03
there's still a massive witch hunt on wealth, profit is a bad word, but the incredible thing that many seem to ignore is the massive reliance on very few to contribute SO much in terms of tax revenues. there's a relatively fine line between living in a somewhat free and hopefully prosperous country, contributing and paying for the privilege of doing so, and it being so financially onerous that it's pointless to stay. ambition and entrepreneurship should be encouraged, not punished. the left always speak of the wealthiest paying 'a bit' more and I think to some extent, there wouldn't be a huge amount of resistance towards this, but a small increase wouldn't touch the sides. I also believe that regardless of taxation levels, it would always be a 'bit more', a constant chipping away.
I really don't know what the answer to the massive social issues may be. We are restricted by reality and vaguely responsible spending. Resources are finite and aside from economic growth/increased GDP leading to higher tax revenues and the possibility to borrow more by maintaining a similar ratio, I've got no idea what can be done.I just do not know what the answer could possibly be. national debt is still massive as a percentage of a GDP, clearly in part a result of horrific Labour financial policy (and bloated, inefficient public services), along with macro factors, but the rationale from the left is spend, spend, spend. I don't believe anybody wants massive inequality and everyone wants good public services, but sense seems to have gone out the window.
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USA:
14 Dec 2019 19:26
You get hated on because you regularly make incredibly hateful statements regarding millions of people and/or entire countries. In all my years on fuk nobody else come close to the amount of hate you spew on here, regardless of political view.
The left is very good at dishing it out but can never take it in return…
May I ask what millions of people and countries I’ve denigrated? It’s better to be specific.
"The left is very good at dishing it out but can never take it in return…" is another ridiculous blanket statement.
On top of my head Portugal, the 3 biggest cities in Sweden, all democrats and lefties, think Germany also a while back
14 Dec 2019 19:49
And stating facts is not insulting - Sweden has a massive immigration problem. Look at how democrats are behaving in the USA, and general lefties here too.
It’s not insulting to point that out. ^ And who a few pages back called the entire U.K. thick as shit for voting for Boris?
Just because someone else did that does that make what you say ok? My point was that you do it more then anyone else on here, not that no one else never say stupid shit.
It's not stating a "fact" to call the three biggest cities in Sweden shitholes. Calling all democrats and lefties for racists and fascist is not stating a fact and so on.
THAT is insulting.
15 Dec 2019 01:32
I purposely went overboard because of the wave of hate I get for not being a liberal on trend lefty.
You get hated on because you regularly make incredibly hateful statements regarding millions of people and/or entire countries. In all my years on fuk nobody else come close to the amount of hate you spew on here, regardless of political view.
The left is very good at dishing it out but can never take it in return…
May I ask what millions of people and countries I’ve denigrated? It’s better to be specific.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-labour-election-defeat-len-mccluskey_uk_5df3b918e4b0ca713e5ee0fa?utm_hp_ref=uk-len-mccluskey
Wrong about failing to apologise for anti-Semitism, it was never going to be enough. Some good points in there.
Wrong about failing to apologise for anti-Semitism, it was never going to be enough. Some good points in there.
there's still a massive witch hunt on wealth, profit is a bad word, but the incredible thing that many seem to ignore is the massive reliance on very few to contribute SO much in terms of tax revenues. there's a relatively fine line between living in a somewhat free and hopefully prosperous country, contributing and paying for the privilege of doing so, and it being so financially onerous that it's pointless to stay. ambition and entrepreneurship should be encouraged, not punished. the left always speak of the wealthiest paying 'a bit' more and I think to some extent, there wouldn't be a huge amount of resistance towards this, but a small increase wouldn't touch the sides. I also believe that regardless of taxation levels, it would always be a 'bit more', a constant chipping away.
I really don't know what the answer to the massive social issues may be. We are restricted by reality and vaguely responsible spending. Resources are finite and aside from economic growth/increased GDP leading to higher tax revenues and the possibility to borrow more by maintaining a similar ratio, I've got no idea what can be done.
https://cdn.shortpixel.ai/client/to_webp,q_glossy,ret_img,w_600/https://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/uk-national-debt-600x424.png
https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2016/09/TopTaxIncidence_PikettySaez2007-750x506.png
https://ourworldindata.org/exports/top-income-tax-rates-piketty_v1_850x600.svg
USA:
Watch how radically taxes on the wealthy have fallen over the past 70 years:
— David Leonhardt (@DLeonhardt) October 7, 2019
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Tories been in power ramping up national debt for 9 years and it's still Labour's fault LDSgl;ksefhdgjkrweh ye jkgehr j teyt ufhdfjhfdsjh hahahahshaghahdhashahagahhagsjhahsgjahfurjt pause jsadhjhjahahahahaahabdjahaj54
I purposely went overboard because of the wave of hate I get for not being a liberal on trend lefty.
You get hated on because you regularly make incredibly hateful statements regarding millions of people and/or entire countries. In all my years on fuk nobody else come close to the amount of hate you spew on here, regardless of political view.
The left is very good at dishing it out but can never take it in return…
May I ask what millions of people and countries I’ve denigrated? It’s better to be specific.
"The left is very good at dishing it out but can never take it in return…" is another ridiculous blanket statement.
On top of my head Portugal, the 3 biggest cities in Sweden, all democrats and lefties, think Germany also a while back
And stating facts is not insulting - Sweden has a massive immigration problem. Look at how democrats are behaving in the USA, and general lefties here too.
It’s not insulting to point that out.
Just because someone else did that does that make what you say ok? My point was that you do it more then anyone else on here, not that no one else never say stupid shit.
It's not stating a "fact" to call the three biggest cities in Sweden shitholes. Calling all democrats and lefties for racists and fascist is not stating a fact and so on.
THAT is insulting.
The problem with lefty policies is that they don’t help poorer people become better off - they just want to make the better off poorer and equalise things that way. But you can’t account for human behaviour.
That’s why their system has to eventually be enforced.
Very similar to Islam - that’s the only way they can keep people in check. By enforcing their religion on people.
That’s why their system has to eventually be enforced.
Very similar to Islam - that’s the only way they can keep people in check. By enforcing their religion on people.
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